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bespoke radio

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for the masses headline additional july

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8th 1947

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disk has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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you are listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black

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bespoke radio

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messes yeah man how you doing

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how you doing today is wednesday

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december 2nd

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2020

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337 days into the new year

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only 29 days left

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wow we are live from a bunker

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a bunker that is somewhere in the middle

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of beautiful downtown burbank california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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all across the united states hither and

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tither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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and near this is fade to black for kjcr

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the game changer network

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and kgr the planet

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i'm yours jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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how you doing night night

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we have very special guest richard

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bleepin

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dolan that's right richard dolan is here

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going to announce the publishing of his

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new book

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the alien agendas i've read it

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yep it's out now you can get it we'll

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talk about all of that tonight

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and then tomorrow night is our annual

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linda moulton howe holiday special what

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a great week on the show

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man vader night last night was amazing

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that was just kyle conkel right on

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monday

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what a great show oh man

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and uh so there you go what a great week

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tonight richard dolan is here

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always uh uh just enjoy it when

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when he's with us we've done so many

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shows over the years

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so uh and it richard dolan's got a new

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book out

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let's see the last book

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he's probably listening right now he's

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just like don't do it timmy but i am i'm

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gonna say it

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i i believe the last book

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that he released was my

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first interview with him eight years ago

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think about that for a second man he

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published his book like

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books like pink floyd releases records

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or guns and roses right okay

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all right enough of that richard dolan

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is here really looking forward to it

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tomorrow night

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l m h holiday special that is tomorrow

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night

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and then we get to wrap up for the

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weekend

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and there you go richard will be with us

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at the bottom of the

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hour and uh there you go i mentioned

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uh a few things now uh i

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i want you guys to realize something

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this show which is great

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this audience which is great only

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happens because of our sponsors

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who are also great and i need you to

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the ads all of the madness go

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and shop go and and do it because that's

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how this show runs get the tea

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go and visit their website go and check

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go and do that please go and visit

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everyone

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all right all right follow me on twitter

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at j church radio

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so what you want to do start right there

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and uh let's see

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let's see what's going on over twitter

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did you see

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did you guys see awakening man he built

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his own monolith

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and and and popped it up in the middle

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called the news there's a monolith in my

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yeah yeah check out the pics it's a it's

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what's the uh is that channel three news

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oh that's a fake news channel

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channel is there a channel three isn't

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that fa isn't channel

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three like for the for tv right or

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channel one news is there a channel

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maybe an atascadero there you go but

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you got a nice backyard

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that's uh pretty cool so the local news

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showed up did they interview you

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everybody you can go and check it out

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i said how long did it take you to build

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that thing man before you called the

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news he's like two days

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two days all right so uh yeah go and

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check that out follow me on twitter at j

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church radio hashtag f2b is the sandbox

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of course uh we have two chat rooms one

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over at spreaker hello corolla there's

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bogey how you doing uh

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there's somebody in the chat room named

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on this show wow going downhill man

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going downhill but uh everybody is

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hanging out so you can go

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i think we're on ubn um

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anybody that's watching over on the

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right are we on ubn tonight right

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somebody tweet me go over to ubn and see

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tony sweet my man

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all right all right let's see where i'm

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jimmy at uh jimmychurchradio.com let's

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get to the breaking news got a lot of it

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holy crap by rock obama

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barack the 44th commander-in-chief

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nestled between 43 and 45 number 44

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that he sought classified information on

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extraterrestrials during his time in the

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oval office i'm not making this up i've

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now i've got a bunch of quotes here

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new book a promised land right but not

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cobara goes

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you'd say there was none you just played

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obama and i thought you were a poker

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just go president of the united states

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barack obama right

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he's not winging it that's not improv

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he is this was this was all done with

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there's a secret mess no i'm just saying

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with intention so if you haven't seen

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uh i don't want to give that away is

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elon was just speaking at an axel

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highly confident that spacex will be

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able to send humans to mars by 2026

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quote i'm doing this for lmh elon's

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we want to send an uncrewed vehicle

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there in two years talking about mars

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i think if you said we'll put a human on

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mars in six years from now

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i'd say i'm highly confident

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then he continues with and if we get

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four years and then elon continues he

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i think it's important that we strive to

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as soon as possible i'm optimistic about

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the future of earth

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but i think it's important to have life

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insurance

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for life as a whole we got to have an

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escape hatch we got to start living on

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mars he's talking about the moon too

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he wants a city on the moon a town more

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like a town

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right a bus stop uh on the moon but he

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you know city scape couple of cities you

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that you know

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you know what i mean the blue one maybe

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the silver you know

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you know what i'm saying you start you

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build it fresh um have you guys seen

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mars

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the tv series ron howard it's pretty

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good check it out

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all right now let's move on to

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astronomers

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mapped 83 percent

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of the observable universe and they did

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it all

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in just 300 hours that's a lot of

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mapping

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this new sky survey which australia's

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national science agency called

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csero described as

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it's the google map of the universe

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that's right it marks the completion of

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a big test for the australian square

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kilometer array pathfinder otherwise

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known as

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ascap not not the music publishing

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company

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it's another one it's called ascap the

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ascap radio telescope a network of 36

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antennas in the western australia

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outback now researchers mapped roughly

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three million galaxies in the southern

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sky

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and published on november 30th in the

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journal publications

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of astronomical society of australia now

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as many as one million of these

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distant galaxies were previously

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unknown to astronomy now how cool is

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that but we're only talking about

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the observable what you can see the

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observable universe

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okay you got to remember that how long

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does it take like to get here

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uh we're talking about 90

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they're getting you know 93 billion

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light years across but

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the the universe is only 13.8 billion so

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how can you have 93 billion

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light years across if the earth that's

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the observable

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right we don't even know what's on the

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outside of that that's all guesstimates

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yeah think about it yeah so really three

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million galaxies when there is at least

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a trillion

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not much but they got it done in 300

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hours all right let's talk about

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the marijuana the marijuana

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a united nations panel has voted to

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remove

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medical cannabis from a list of

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dangerous drugs that's right

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earlier today the commission for

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narcotic drugs

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voted on several world health

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organizations the w.h.o

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recommendations related to pot

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among them was a recommendation that

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we'd be

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stricken from schedule four that's right

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of the 1961 single

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convention on narcotic drugs

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the list currently puts cannabis

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alongside

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drugs like hey wrong

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cocaine fentanyl

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that's right since 1961

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the mary jane a separate recommendation

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to add byproducts like thc

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right to the lower the lower level

364
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the schedule one level that failed

365
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you can officially blame that on china

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egypt nigeria pakistan

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and russia that's right

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let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday to today

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i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it i'm

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this thing on britney spears

372
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today is 39. she's been 39 for like 10

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years but

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let's just stick to it today britney

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spears is 39

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nelly furtado today

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name one nelly furtado song nelly

378
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furtado

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today is 42.

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def leppard o g bassist rick savage

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today is 60. i

382
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saw wow i was probably

383
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16 the math checks out because i'm 57

384
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right i was 16 15

385
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16 years old i saw blizzard

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of oz with randy rhodes at the circle

387
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theater

388
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in indianapolis 1980 right

389
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1980 wasn't even 81 1980

390
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and and i believe everybody in def

391
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leppard

392
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that opened for ozzie on that show it

393
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was like

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300 people there by the way everybody in

395
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def lover was like 18.

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and he's 60. and it just makes sense i'm

397
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57 you start doing the math i'm like wow

398
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i guess so rick savage is 60 years old i

399
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cannot believe it we were both teenagers

400
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together

401
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right

402
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:13,510
yeah jack benny was 39 for a long time i

403
00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:14,640
know i know

404
00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:17,600
i'm with that nelly furtado i'm like a

405
00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:18,640
bird

406
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:21,360
man eater the donkey song very good

407
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:22,000
brandon

408
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i would have i remember the uh i'm like

409
00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:25,840
a bird

410
00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:28,080
yeah that's the one that i remember i'm

411
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sorry

412
00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:31,200
this one is at the house of

413
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representatives is that a is that a

414
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:34,080
nelly furtado

415
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:37,120
song could be that's from uh

416
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:40,080
john frankie's four fingers um okay

417
00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:41,760
where am i at

418
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:45,360
let's see nelly furtado uh oh

419
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:49,120
our dead guy's birthday today razzle

420
00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:52,320
razzle 1969 to 1984 died at the age of

421
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24.

422
00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:55,200
of course razzle was the english drummer

423
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of the finnish band

424
00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:01,200
hanoi rocks from 1982 until his death

425
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:03,840
in late 1984 hanoi rocks was on their

426
00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:05,280
first american tour

427
00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:07,440
front man michael monroe fractured an

428
00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:09,919
ankle so the band had to skip a few

429
00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:11,840
gigs and they took a break right here in

430
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:15,120
los angeles california during that break

431
00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:18,400
motley crue singer vince neil invited

432
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:20,640
the band to visit his home in redondo

433
00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:22,400
beach california

434
00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:25,760
neil and razzle both drunk went to a

435
00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:27,200
nearby liquor store

436
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:30,960
in neil's pantera with neil driving

437
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:33,039
on the way back they crashed into

438
00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:34,400
another car

439
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:36,400
razzle was rushed to the hospital and

440
00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:38,320
pronounced dead he died

441
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:41,840
instantly in the collision

442
00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:45,120
and uh the rock world changed that day

443
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:48,720
hanoi rocks well still is michael monroe

444
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:50,559
that was a band

445
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:58,080
on this day in history 1942 physicist

446
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:01,360
enrico fermi produces the first

447
00:22:08,789 --> 00:22:04,880
nuclear chain reaction in his laboratory

448
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:08,799
beneath the bleachers of stag field

449
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:12,559
at the university of chicago on this day

450
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:15,679
otd fader fact

451
00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:19,120
north korea only uses

452
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:22,480
its own smartphones

453
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:26,240
on their own government network

454
00:22:31,870 --> 00:22:29,280
no internet users

455
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:31,880
have to download apps at a

456
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:33,039
government-owned

457
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:36,559
store that's right where they can

458
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:40,880
only get government apps

459
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:46,400
on their chinese-made iphone knockoffs

460
00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:47,919
and that's your fader fact they don't

461
00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:56,470
can you imagine right i mean so

462
00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:59,280
closed down in north korea so closed

463
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:00,640
down that you don't even

464
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:04,480
know you don't know about facebook

465
00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:07,520
you probably never even heard a rumor

466
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:10,240
about facebook you don't know about

467
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:10,799
twitter

468
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:13,440
you don't know about the internet you

469
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:15,679
don't know about google

470
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:18,000
you don't know nothing right and you

471
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:19,440
think it's cool

472
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:22,559
that you got this cell phone and you can

473
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:24,000
go down and get these things

474
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:26,240
apps that the government makes for you

475
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,440
you know to track you

476
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:29,919
and stuff but and you think how

477
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:31,600
fantastical that is

478
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:35,679
but you have no idea you have no idea

479
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:38,400
about the internet you've never been

480
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:39,360
red-pilled

481
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:41,440
on the internet you've never blocked

482
00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:42,559
someone

483
00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:46,159
you know you don't know

484
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:49,360
how crazy is that all right

485
00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:57,110
i often talk about writing a book and i

486
00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:58,880
think about it i do i do i

487
00:24:01,909 --> 00:24:00,880
i ran in pastor rita a few months ago

488
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:01,919
she's like what

489
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:05,039
you write a book come on man and you

490
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:05,600
know so

491
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:08,080
you know i'm brought back down to level

492
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:08,799
um

493
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:10,480
back down to earth but after reading

494
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,000
richard dolan's new book

495
00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:14,400
the alien agendas it makes me think that

496
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:15,520
maybe i should

497
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:17,360
actually get serious about it because

498
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:18,880
richard's a great writer it's a great

499
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:19,679
book and

500
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,960
you know you just start reading that and

501
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:22,559
you're like man i got something to say

502
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,760
right

503
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,000
and i've got so much respect for anyone

504
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:27,840
who pulls it off because so much time

505
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:28,240
goes

506
00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:30,960
into publishing the research the editing

507
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:31,919
and you know of

508
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:34,720
the time that you have to actually sit

509
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:35,840
typing

510
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:38,080
right it's a huge project i don't know

511
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:39,840
how they pull it off

512
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:43,200
but here's the deal a book about

513
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,480
my life i guess that would be boring

514
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:48,159
not much there really nobody gives a

515
00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:49,919
crap right okay so

516
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:52,880
what would i write about you know it

517
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:54,480
feels like there is

518
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,230
so if you take the

519
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,840
individual events in my life forget

520
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:05,200
about i was born in

521
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:07,120
you know and then i went to school and

522
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:08,480
then you know forget about all that

523
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:08,960
stuff

524
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:11,440
no nobody cares saw van halen for the

525
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:13,200
first time man and it was so cool

526
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:15,440
nobody cares about that but if you take

527
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:17,440
the individual events

528
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:21,120
in my life that involve ufos contact

529
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:23,679
the paranormal right these strange

530
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:24,400
events

531
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:30,950
each one is different and then you

532
00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:34,559
take these events and then apply some

533
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:37,600
science and research to each case

534
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:41,440
maybe we've got something here

535
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:45,760
so i i kind of wrote out a short list

536
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:49,039
so let me let me run this past you

537
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:52,559
all right because

538
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:57,279
we have uh in this timeline right

539
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:59,760
we have the electrical shocks during

540
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:00,799
sunday morning

541
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:03,760
church tv that i went through when i was

542
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:05,279
seven years old

543
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:08,159
there's something there i don't know

544
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:09,120
what it is

545
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:12,240
but there's something there and then we

546
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:13,200
have

547
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:16,559
the the zeppelin right when

548
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:20,559
uh when i was nine the zeppelin event

549
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:22,240
something there that has nothing to do

550
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:24,159
do they relate i don't know maybe

551
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:27,360
i don't know we have the ghost

552
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:32,159
that i saw in hollywood when i was 27.

553
00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:33,840
yeah across the street from the church

554
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:35,440
of scientology by the way but that's

555
00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:36,960
another story

556
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:40,880
connected maybe we have the visitor

557
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:45,520
in my room at the age of 33

558
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:49,039
connected i don't know we have the black

559
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,080
triangle in monterey i got a picture

560
00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:54,559
of that man i got a picture of it and

561
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:56,880
that's when i was 35

562
00:27:01,750 --> 00:26:59,919
related to the vis i don't know i don't

563
00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:01,760
know related to the electrical shocks

564
00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:02,320
could be

565
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:05,840
i don't know they seem all different

566
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:06,480
right

567
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,000
we have the ufo crash with rita we saw

568
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:12,559
this together in

569
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:17,520
in downtown van nuys back in 2008

570
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:19,679
that was crazy other eyewitnesses other

571
00:27:24,389 --> 00:27:21,120
things that went down

572
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:24,399
contacted mufon right what was

573
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:27,120
that had nothing to do with the black

574
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,200
triangle right the visitor of my room or

575
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the ghost in hollywood or the zeppelin

576
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:32,720
when i was nine or the electrical shot

577
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:35,760
these are all individual events then you

578
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:37,760
can even jump forward and go hey what

579
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:38,559
about

580
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,399
what's going on with that

581
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:44,399
maybe people need to know this stuff man

582
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:45,840
maybe there's something

583
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:49,440
there those aren't related

584
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:51,200
they're not they're just not related and

585
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:54,240
then what about what about the bigfoot

586
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,600
print the bigfoot footprints the big

587
00:28:01,510 --> 00:28:00,240
foot the big feet footprints i don't

588
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,520
know how to say that

589
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:03,760
what about that those aren't related or

590
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:06,080
are they

591
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:11,600
i don't know then we have the beer can

592
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:14,720
we have the beer can and uh and

593
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:16,960
what's really strange so i mean is that

594
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a book

595
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:21,520
you see each situation is just different

596
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:24,240
from the other they're not the same

597
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:25,360
strange right

598
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:27,200
all in one life that's kind of crazy

599
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:28,720
it's almost unbelievable

600
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:31,120
thank goodness pretty much except for

601
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:33,039
the zeppelin and the electrical shocks

602
00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:33,600
but but

603
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:35,279
pretty much everybody there was somebody

604
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,360
with me or rather witnesses there were

605
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:39,120
people that can back this stuff up

606
00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:43,360
that's cool but is there enough here

607
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:46,240
is that a book and and bring in experts

608
00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:47,039
and and maybe

609
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:50,720
some analysis because

610
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:53,840
i read richard's book today and i got to

611
00:28:56,830 --> 00:28:54,480
tell you

612
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,840
i want to write i want a book like

613
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richard

614
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i want that respect book is good

615
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:06,000
it's good it's good it inspired me

616
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:07,840
and i i don't know maybe there's

617
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something there maybe not

618
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:12,240
i've told the story so much but that's

619
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here on the air you know is

620
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:16,720
is there is there a way to go deeper

621
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,919
with all of this

622
00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:19,440
i'll throw it out there to you guys do

623
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:22,240
you think there is enough

624
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there right all right so

625
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uh so is you challenged her did you get

626
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docked is that is that to me i have no

627
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idea this is fade to black i am your

628
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host jimmy church tonight

629
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the one and only richard bleep and dolan

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the new book is out it is

631
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called the alien agenda za

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plural i'll be right back after this

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short break i'm your host jimmy church

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on the game changer network in kgra

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uh rich dolan on twitter

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that's right rich not richard rich

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dolan i'll be right back after this

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short break stay with us

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and kgra the planet

746
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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

747
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:48,079
you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

748
00:35:09,750 --> 00:34:51,280
what's up chris what up this is jimmy

749
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:11,430
welcome back fade to black i gotta get

750
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:13,440
ready richard dolan is here i gotta

751
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:14,560
stretch

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do some aerobics ah man i gotta

753
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i gotta get ready richard is here

754
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:24,160
tomorrow night linda moulton howe

755
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joining us for our annual lmh

756
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holiday special well tonight i guess

757
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:31,680
tonight's our

758
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,880
annual richard dolan holiday special we

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can do that too

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00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:39,359
richard and linda back-to-back same week

761
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:41,200
doesn't get any better than that folks

762
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:44,320
all right tonight we're talking about

763
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:46,160
the new publication of his book it's

764
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:49,520
called the alien agendas a speculative

765
00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:52,640
analysis of those visiting earth now we

766
00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:54,079
all know richard is one of the leading

767
00:35:56,829 --> 00:35:55,839
researchers and writers on the subject

768
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:56,839
of ufos

769
00:36:01,589 --> 00:35:59,440
sometimes the books are a little slow

770
00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:01,599
coming out but when they do

771
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:03,839
they're great and they he believes that

772
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:04,720
all of this

773
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:07,440
constitute the greatest mystery of our

774
00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:08,000
time

775
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:10,839
of course completed his graduated i just

776
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:12,560
graduated

777
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:15,839
richard why do you make me nervous man

778
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:17,839
i can't even get through your bio

779
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:23,990
what's up okay hold on hold on richard

780
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,079
let me let me try this once again

781
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:28,079
graduate work at the university of

782
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:30,000
rochester oh by the way last night i'm

783
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:32,160
watching a documentary richard

784
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:36,240
um on it was on

785
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:40,400
uh oh it was on uh uh a painting uh

786
00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:43,280
uh leonardo da vinci the second mona

787
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:45,440
lisa i didn't know that there was two

788
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:48,960
right um but the researcher

789
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:52,240
that was analyzing the pigments

790
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:55,200
university of rochester how how crazy is

791
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:56,079
that right

792
00:37:03,589 --> 00:36:59,760
i was like wow that's kind of weird

793
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:05,030
oh are you talking to me yeah i'm

794
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:07,280
talking to you richard university am i

795
00:37:10,590 --> 00:37:08,640
on

796
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:10,600
yes okay i'll kill you

797
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,079
[Laughter]

798
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:15,440
oh this is great anyway uh usually i had

799
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:16,880
no idea that i was live with you

800
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:19,359
yes you are live right now and this is

801
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:20,640
first of all we got to give you a new

802
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:22,160
introduction to read because that's

803
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:23,760
that's just getting old yeah well you

804
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:25,440
know what but see the thing is

805
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,880
everybody knows the introduction right

806
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,720
it's true it's like the standard you

807
00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:32,320
roll it out yeah you know if i

808
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:35,839
write it myself um this is the thing

809
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:36,880
let's say you did

810
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:39,040
you presented and i did a little edit

811
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:40,240
and we trimmed up you know what

812
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:41,680
twitter's gonna do

813
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,960
oh they got a new intro for richard

814
00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:46,720
here's the thing like i've actually

815
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:48,079
written out a bunch of

816
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:50,079
super short concise intros i'm just

817
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:51,680
going to give you one

818
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:54,800
save you some time yeah i look i read uh

819
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:57,920
the about the author you know

820
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:59,839
at the end of the new book right oh

821
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:01,920
right yeah right and i read that and i'm

822
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:02,640
like this is

823
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:04,800
exactly the same as the intro that i've

824
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:07,520
been doing for eight years

825
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:10,640
all right so i just won't say oh i swear

826
00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:11,280
it did it

827
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:15,119
actually i don't always do this when i'm

828
00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:16,720
on your show but i was listening to your

829
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:17,359
whole first

830
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:21,440
segment okay and um you're hilarious

831
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:24,480
really big foot big feets that was

832
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:25,040
pretty good

833
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:27,680
yeah yeah i'm coming down with covid so

834
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:29,839
maybe

835
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:34,880
to do with that i kid everybody

836
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:37,040
i kid i can't i'm talking about britney

837
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:39,200
spears and nelly furtado

838
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:40,880
yeah right coming out of the blue with

839
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:42,880
that yeah yeah pretty good well

840
00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:46,160
okay nice segue there nice segue

841
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,000
what was the last thing you listened to

842
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:50,400
today last piece of music

843
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,920
yes indeed well i can answer that and

844
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:53,280
i'm going to do it by giving you a

845
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riddle

846
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:56,160
which i've also never done this is a new

847
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twist to our relationship

848
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:01,599
got to keep it fresh that's right so the

849
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:04,800
the song was the first

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00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:09,040
track of what many would argue is the

851
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:09,599
greatest

852
00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:13,680
any band in rock history

853
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:15,640
you listen to

854
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:16,720
[Music]

855
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:19,680
uh communication breakdown led zeppelin

856
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:20,880
well first of all

857
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:23,520
write group wrong song oh you gotta get

858
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,119
it together

859
00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:27,599
wasn't communication breakdown the the

860
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:29,200
first song and the first album on the

861
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:31,040
first side that was good times bad

862
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:34,640
good times bad times okay all right

863
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:36,160
but i'm gonna give you a little like a

864
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,560
little bonus there but it did i

865
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:40,720
that was pretty good though i gotta say

866
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:41,760
i was i was

867
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:45,280
i was in i was in the room i was in the

868
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,760
car

869
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:47,520
i'm going to give you that yes anyway so

870
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:49,200
yes i heard good times bad times not

871
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:50,560
very long ago

872
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:52,240
that was my last song you know what i

873
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:54,880
listened to today

874
00:40:02,310 --> 00:39:59,440
i listened to kenneth copeland

875
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:02,320
wow yeah that's right the preacher man

876
00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:03,200
fancy pants

877
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:05,119
yeah the sunday morning preacher man

878
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:06,800
right kenneth copeland

879
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:09,200
uh his new heavy metal album that he's

880
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:10,720
got out have you heard it oh i'm

881
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:12,640
thinking of aaron copeland no i'm not

882
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:14,000
aaron goblin

883
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:17,200
no i'm talking about the preacher man

884
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:19,200
yeah okay never mind kenneth copeland's

885
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:21,040
got a heavy metal album out

886
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:23,920
have you heard it i'm very happy for him

887
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,990
go check out my twitter feed very good

888
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,599
yeah you need to go it's actually

889
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:33,599
brilliant it's actually brilliant

890
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:37,200
okay now let's um uh let's actually jump

891
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:38,480
into this

892
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:41,760
okay uh the book is great but

893
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:45,119
isn't it funny that i've given you a

894
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:46,240
hard time

895
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:48,319
over over the years about you know the

896
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:49,359
new book the new book

897
00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:52,720
you know it's funny haha but

898
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:55,839
it's been eight years it's been eight

899
00:40:59,829 --> 00:40:56,720
years since

900
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:59,839
21st century mind did you know that this

901
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:00,079
is

902
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:08,240
so if we go 2013 2014 15 16 17

903
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:11,280
18 19 20. it's been a while that's eight

904
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,079
years

905
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:14,800
and uh i thought it was 2014. uh i don't

906
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:15,359
know

907
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:19,119
okay but okay okay richard maybe i keep

908
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:21,040
telling myself it's 2014 just to make it

909
00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:22,000
a little more recent

910
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:25,520
and that was the release of that book

911
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:28,560
was our first interview

912
00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:30,319
that's right and remember it well and

913
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,000
it's taken this long

914
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:34,560
and look how much more polished we are

915
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:35,040
all right

916
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:37,359
okay now i did write a couple of little

917
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:38,640
booklets in there but

918
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:40,160
maybe they don't count right the

919
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:41,680
pamphlets the the

920
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:44,960
those were good actually the pamphlets

921
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:48,160
oh man but okay now

922
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:51,520
um uh in in right like i didn't i didn't

923
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:52,720
write anything large

924
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,040
uh anything long no and even this

925
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:57,200
particular book it's it's not a super

926
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:00,720
long book it's about 245 250 pages

927
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:03,760
uh but uh it is something i'm happy with

928
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:05,440
and i'll be happy to talk with you about

929
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:07,119
it one thing i'll say before

930
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:10,720
we jump in yes is that uh the book that

931
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,280
you've been

932
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,440
really hounding me to write right these

933
00:42:18,309 --> 00:42:15,200
years of volume three of

934
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:18,319
ufos in the national security state um

935
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:21,839
i will just tell you for reasons unknown

936
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:23,680
as soon as i finish writing the alien

937
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:24,880
agendas i

938
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:27,920
have thrown myself into

939
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:31,359
re re-jump starting volume 3 of my

940
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:32,400
series and

941
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:35,119
actually it's been an amazing last few

942
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:36,880
weeks of doing that

943
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:40,319
so i'm organizing i have my data i'm

944
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:41,359
lining it up and i

945
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:43,119
actually do expect to write that book in

946
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:44,480
the coming year

947
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:46,720
but we'll talk about that when it's

948
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:50,240
ready do you need a co-author

949
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:51,440
oh we're gonna have to talk about you

950
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,800
writing a book as well because that was

951
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,319
the other thing on your

952
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:56,000
oh yeah you caught that you caught that

953
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:57,359
now i'm embarrassed

954
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,920
um no no honestly i think you should

955
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:01,440
write a book

956
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,359
i don't know if like a travelogue of

957
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:04,960
your cool

958
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:07,200
separate experiences is the route that i

959
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:08,640
would want to go

960
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:11,119
were i you but maybe it would be like

961
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:13,119
the key is it's got to be interesting

962
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:14,640
right you gotta have like if you've got

963
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:16,560
these little vignettes

964
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,319
of your life and interesting thing

965
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:20,400
that's actually not bad but you've

966
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:22,400
really got to make each thing have

967
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:23,920
something uniquely interesting that

968
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,440
breeders are going to be like wow i love

969
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:27,520
that so you got to figure that out

970
00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:28,960
the other thing is you could write a

971
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:31,040
book on something that you really

972
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:34,240
genuinely care a lot about and then you

973
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:35,920
write that book with the blood in your

974
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,440
veins like that's how you do it

975
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:38,960
like it's got to be a work of passion

976
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:40,960
and something that you really care about

977
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:44,160
that matters that would be right

978
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:47,040
write it with fire and you edit with ice

979
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:48,160
that would be

980
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:54,000
red pasta sauce

981
00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:57,440
great really hey honestly it doesn't

982
00:44:01,270 --> 00:43:59,920
to me there are great books on every

983
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:01,280
subject out there

984
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,960
yeah and the key is you've got to have

985
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:04,640
an interesting thing to say about it

986
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:08,000
that people will want to hear i agree

987
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:10,240
i agree i agree i just look you know

988
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:12,160
when when i talk to rita about this i

989
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:12,560
want

990
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:14,880
you're here to talk about your book but

991
00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:15,839
it was funny i

992
00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:19,599
i said to rita i had this uh crazy dream

993
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:21,920
um and i hate it when people go i had a

994
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:23,680
crazy dream i want to turn it into a

995
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:24,079
book

996
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:27,280
well no it's not that interesting but

997
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:30,480
but i did have this crazy dream about

998
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:34,880
waking up as an android

999
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:38,000
eyes pop open right and

1000
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:40,880
and it got really detailed and it it i

1001
00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:42,720
had a lump in my throat i was

1002
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:45,440
sad and i was freaked out about the

1003
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:46,560
whole experience

1004
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:49,599
and the emotion of what i went through

1005
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:52,240
as an adult man of 57 i wake up and i

1006
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:53,839
got tears in my eyes

1007
00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:57,359
because i was so emotionally distraught

1008
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,440
about about this experience but i

1009
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:00,800
thought if there's a way to get

1010
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:03,760
that right if there's a way to write

1011
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:04,720
that

1012
00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:06,319
i think there's something there because

1013
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:08,079
it you were like the tin man before he

1014
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,640
got his heart

1015
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,560
that's exactly what it was and it wasn't

1016
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:12,160
wanting that emotion that's a that's

1017
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:12,960
beautiful

1018
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:15,839
now it's making me cry well see and

1019
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:16,480
there is a

1020
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:20,560
there's an element to this book um

1021
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:23,119
that as i was reading it richard i'm

1022
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:23,680
gonna

1023
00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:26,880
okay yes your book

1024
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:30,839
let's go to the end first the last 10

1025
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:32,079
pages um

1026
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:35,200
and and now there's no spoilers here

1027
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:36,960
everybody go and get the book the book

1028
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:37,760
is great

1029
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:40,160
we'll talk about the the book but we're

1030
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:41,440
not

1031
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:45,200
the book but in the end

1032
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:48,640
in your conclusion uh richard

1033
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:52,880
it seems that you were getting

1034
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:56,960
uh a little bit into your heart and soul

1035
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:00,720
and your concern for the planet and

1036
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:04,560
uh and consciousness and our future

1037
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:07,119
and you were very passionate about that

1038
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:07,680
where

1039
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,480
in your books in the past have been more

1040
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:12,160
black and white and pragmatic and

1041
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:13,680
historical and

1042
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:15,599
and doc you know what i mean black and

1043
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:17,760
white and you you started to go

1044
00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:19,200
there at the end of this book and i was

1045
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:20,960
like man richard is

1046
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:23,440
richard's got some concerns going on uh

1047
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:24,960
for this planet

1048
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:28,400
right i wasn't imagining things was i

1049
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:29,920
well i don't know when i look at the

1050
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,400
conclusions of my previous books

1051
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:35,119
i actually always made a point to speak

1052
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:37,760
from the heart in all of them

1053
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,119
i will tell you the truth when i

1054
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:41,520
finished uh the final segment of volume

1055
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,000
two of

1056
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:44,240
ufos and national security state i

1057
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:45,920
actually felt emotional after i wrote

1058
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:46,640
that

1059
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:50,240
conclusion here

1060
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:53,680
is from my heart and um i mean basically

1061
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:54,240
what i

1062
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,480
have argued in this book i mean i have a

1063
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:58,000
number of points that i've made so one

1064
00:47:02,950 --> 00:46:59,359
of the things is

1065
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:02,960
you know i try to sit down and to

1066
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:05,359
you know based on i mean admittedly what

1067
00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:06,400
some people are going to consider

1068
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:07,359
sketchy

1069
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:09,839
data like you know alleged or apparent

1070
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,000
abductions alleged or apparent encounter

1071
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:14,400
experiences with with non-humans or

1072
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,839
aliens

1073
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:17,200
like a lot of people will have problems

1074
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,560
with that and i've just decided to go

1075
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:20,000
with what i think is the best evidence

1076
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:21,200
and to formulate

1077
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:23,920
hypotheses of the various groups but and

1078
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:25,440
we can talk about that but

1079
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:28,400
at the one of the main arguments that i

1080
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:29,440
have is

1081
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:31,520
they are here in force now for a

1082
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:32,800
specific reason

1083
00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:35,200
like i do argue that we we have probably

1084
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,520
been monitored for our entire existence

1085
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,440
but i believe that that was at a

1086
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:41,359
relatively low level of monitoring

1087
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:42,319
because frankly

1088
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,319
human society human civilization just

1089
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:45,680
wasn't all that

1090
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:47,760
much for them to be concerned about we

1091
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:49,280
were muddling along with

1092
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:51,520
horses and wooden carts and we didn't

1093
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,960
really have any technology and

1094
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:54,240
there was nothing that they could really

1095
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:56,400
do with us but that's not true in the

1096
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:57,200
last

1097
00:48:01,990 --> 00:48:00,400
150 years where we really discovered the

1098
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:02,000
secret of prometheus you know the fire

1099
00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:03,839
of prometheus which is science

1100
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:05,920
and high technology and we're

1101
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:07,599
leapfrogging over ourselves

1102
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,119
to create a completely different world

1103
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:11,680
now unlike anything that's ever existed

1104
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:13,599
in the entire history of our species

1105
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:15,599
which we now believe is more than 300

1106
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:17,280
000 years old at a minimum

1107
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:18,800
all right we've never ever been like

1108
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:22,480
this so it's it's all new territory

1109
00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:25,599
and it is potentially of great power to

1110
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:25,839
us

1111
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,920
as a species i think as individuals

1112
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:29,200
we're all going to be losing a lot of

1113
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:29,680
power

1114
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:32,880
but as a species collectively

1115
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:34,160
it's going to be very different we're

1116
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:35,280
combining a lot of different

1117
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:36,559
technologies and these

1118
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:38,720
this is creating a change of orders of

1119
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:40,720
magnitude

1120
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:42,559
um beyond anything that we've ever

1121
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,359
existed so this is not just incremental

1122
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:47,040
that's why i call it the fourth stage of

1123
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:48,720
humanity and i'd love to chat about that

1124
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:49,680
with you

1125
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:52,240
but um so i think you were referring to

1126
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:52,880
well

1127
00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:55,040
actually uh let me jump in here for a

1128
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:56,000
second yeah

1129
00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:58,720
um are because you just said it's not

1130
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:00,559
incremental right this isn't some

1131
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:04,559
gradual this is not right we are at

1132
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:07,599
a virtual light switch right where i

1133
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:08,000
mean

1134
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:11,599
click and and these changes

1135
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:15,680
are are now and rapid

1136
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:18,079
their their lightning speed right

1137
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:19,680
particularly if you take a few steps

1138
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:21,520
back and look at the perspective

1139
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:23,839
of our society i mean even on a daily

1140
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:24,960
basis now

1141
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:27,920
to many of us it seems very fast indeed

1142
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:28,960
and on a

1143
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:31,040
grander scale it is like flipping a

1144
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:33,040
switch i think you're quite right

1145
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,680
and so we're moving into i'm calling it

1146
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:37,359
the transhumanist

1147
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:39,520
stage but even that doesn't fully cover

1148
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:40,559
it

1149
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,480
surveillance

1150
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:46,400
you know humanity is one big anthill

1151
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:47,760
stage maybe that's how we can

1152
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:51,119
look at it it's a very very like strong

1153
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:53,200
bureaucratic technocratic centralization

1154
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:55,040
digitization commodification of every

1155
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:56,319
single thing on the planet

1156
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:59,760
and on and and on so it's it's weird and

1157
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,160
it's

1158
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:02,319
just we've never been like this but i

1159
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:03,680
believe

1160
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:07,119
it gives the collective power elite

1161
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:10,480
um the masters of our world tremendous

1162
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:11,280
power

1163
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:13,040
tremendous ability that could never have

1164
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:14,800
been dreamed of before and i personally

1165
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:16,480
believe this is why

1166
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:19,280
we're seeing an extensive amount of

1167
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:21,200
interaction by other beings in our world

1168
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:22,079
now

1169
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:24,000
this is the time that they would be

1170
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:25,680
interested does that mean that they're

1171
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:26,000
afraid

1172
00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:27,119
that we're going to be able to take them

1173
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:29,599
in a street fight no not necessarily

1174
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,240
but it does mean in my view that we're

1175
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:34,480
getting to a point where

1176
00:50:38,549 --> 00:50:36,960
we actually might be a nuisance or or a

1177
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:38,559
disruption

1178
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:40,079
in the neighborhood i think that is

1179
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:42,000
entirely possible we're looking

1180
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,640
at a near future of very strong ai we're

1181
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:46,400
looking at a near future of

1182
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:49,680
um beyond quantum computing possibly or

1183
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:51,359
even quantum computing

1184
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:54,480
and genetic engineering and you know a

1185
00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:56,160
whole array of all these other

1186
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,000
technologies so when you

1187
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:01,200
combine them all into this

1188
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:03,520
stew we can't even predict everything

1189
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:05,440
that's going to come out of it but

1190
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:07,839
something big is coming out of it and

1191
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:08,960
when i was

1192
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:14,240
the heart in my conclusion

1193
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:18,160
um you know i mean part of me

1194
00:51:21,750 --> 00:51:20,480
i see this transformation of our

1195
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:21,760
civilization

1196
00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:24,720
perhaps has an inevitability but that

1197
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:26,079
doesn't mean that i think it's a good

1198
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:26,720
thing i

1199
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,000
i really mourn the loss of

1200
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:32,160
i guess what i would say like classical

1201
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:33,200
humanity

1202
00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:35,920
because i do think that we are moving

1203
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:36,319
we're

1204
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,400
i ironically

1205
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,480
that movement away from our humanity

1206
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:44,160
might be the step

1207
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:47,920
that that will happen

1208
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:51,040
to get us to be more like them like

1209
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:51,599
we're

1210
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:53,920
turning ourselves more into aliens and

1211
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:54,800
and i think that

1212
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:57,599
feeling pervaded the entire conclusion

1213
00:52:02,790 --> 00:51:59,520
of my book

1214
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:02,800
we you and i right everything around us

1215
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:04,640
right now that is living

1216
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:07,760
could quite possibly be the last

1217
00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:10,800
generation of 100

1218
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:14,079
human right if you if you think about

1219
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,720
this

1220
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,319
and you present it pretty well in the

1221
00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:18,480
book but if you

1222
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:22,880
really think about it 30 years from now

1223
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:26,319
two generations a generation and a half

1224
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:29,280
but those kids that are born born not

1225
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:30,480
alive right now

1226
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:33,839
that are born in 30 years they're

1227
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:36,400
they're that's transhumanism they they

1228
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:37,280
are going to have

1229
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:40,960
stuff uh at birth injected

1230
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:44,640
right placed implanted at birth yes

1231
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,079
yeah i think i think you're that's

1232
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:48,160
exactly right and um

1233
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:49,760
and it won't even i mean the

1234
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:51,680
transhumanism is part

1235
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:54,640
of what we're all looking at you know

1236
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:56,640
there are like these crazy utopians out

1237
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:57,760
there who say oh it's going to be

1238
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:59,119
wonderful we're going to be like live

1239
00:53:02,150 --> 00:53:00,960
like gods or live for hundreds of years

1240
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:02,160
and it'll all be great

1241
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:03,599
well i don't know about that first of

1242
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:05,200
all maybe some people will be able to do

1243
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:05,680
that

1244
00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:07,200
i've often speculated we're going to

1245
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:09,040
have some kind of biologically based

1246
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:11,200
caste system of the future where the

1247
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:13,440
people who can afford that can have that

1248
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:15,200
and the rest of us please who knows what

1249
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:16,480
happens to us

1250
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:19,280
but um the real concern that i have

1251
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:20,800
isn't even that because we're actually

1252
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:22,800
already developing that type of

1253
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:24,559
i mean you've already got very very

1254
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:26,160
elite wealthy people who already are

1255
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:27,760
healthier and they live longer lives and

1256
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,160
they've

1257
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:30,319
already got everything compared with

1258
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:31,520
poor people

1259
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:34,800
um what i'm concerned about is

1260
00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:36,400
the dramatic technological

1261
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:38,319
transformation of our society

1262
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:41,119
is within even the space of the last

1263
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:43,760
five let's even say 10 years

1264
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:46,960
transformed our society into a an

1265
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:50,319
overtly vast control system the likes of

1266
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:51,440
which

1267
00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:53,760
like we could all see this coming ten

1268
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:55,040
years ago i could

1269
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:56,559
i talked about it i had lectures about

1270
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:58,319
it i wrote about it it's not that i

1271
00:54:02,470 --> 00:53:59,200
couldn't see it

1272
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:02,480
but i must say that i'm i am astonished

1273
00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:03,920
by the swiftness

1274
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:06,160
that we've seen in the last few years

1275
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:08,960
looking at big tech social media control

1276
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:12,400
propaganda overt propaganda and

1277
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:14,240
the platforming which i think you were

1278
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:16,400
talking about in your opening segment

1279
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:18,960
uh this this in other words the movement

1280
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:20,640
to become just like china

1281
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:22,160
honestly where they've got the social

1282
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:24,720
credit system china has a genius

1283
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:28,079
totalitarian system that is

1284
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,599
vastly more brilliant than any that's

1285
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:31,680
ever been attempted and with the

1286
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:33,200
social credit system that they've got

1287
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:35,760
they've effectively terrorized their

1288
00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:37,040
entire population

1289
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:39,839
into compliance um and i think that

1290
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:41,440
we're seeing that

1291
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:43,119
you've got all the western elites they

1292
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:45,200
love china they admire china and they

1293
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:47,599
they they have to modulate how they

1294
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:49,280
express that admiration but it's very

1295
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:50,880
clear that they do

1296
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:52,960
and you can just see where maybe a

1297
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:54,799
decade behind the chinese at the most

1298
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:58,400
nowadays yeah in 30 years

1299
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,240
i mean there isn't another way to look

1300
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:02,400
at this and i don't care

1301
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:05,280
about i'm not concerned with i should

1302
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:06,079
say

1303
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:08,720
what part of society you're from right

1304
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:09,359
if you're

1305
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:12,799
in a garbage dump in in brazil

1306
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:16,240
right begging or digging for food or

1307
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:19,040
you run a hedge fund it doesn't matter

1308
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:20,720
30 years from now

1309
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:24,960
every human is going to be

1310
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:28,400
monitored right it's just your location

1311
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:29,040
your

1312
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:34,319
is going to be there uh

1313
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:36,240
locked onto the internet there isn't

1314
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:37,920
another way

1315
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:40,240
for the future to be it's not going to

1316
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,520
be the opposite of that for sure

1317
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:45,520
no right and i mean we're already all

1318
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:47,040
being monitored we all know that but

1319
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:49,520
more elements of our lives are going to

1320
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:51,119
be monitored so with digital currency

1321
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:52,240
for example we're getting away from my

1322
00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:53,520
book but that's okay

1323
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:56,319
digital currencies on on the route which

1324
00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:57,920
will monitor every single transaction

1325
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:58,960
that you make and it'll be

1326
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:01,280
instantly available to you know whatever

1327
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:02,400
authorities are

1328
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:05,200
deemed they're able to look at it and

1329
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:06,160
movement of course

1330
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:09,040
gps obviously and uh facial wreck voice

1331
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:10,880
recognition all of that that's

1332
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:13,440
all that's all on the table it's all

1333
00:56:17,349 --> 00:56:14,000
happening

1334
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:17,359
now but but this is

1335
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:20,559
your book if you and you take a a really

1336
00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:22,079
close analysis of this

1337
00:56:28,390 --> 00:56:25,359
one of the things that you clearly state

1338
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:28,400
is that this is what we're going through

1339
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:31,839
e.t knows this they've gone through it

1340
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:32,720
too

1341
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:35,760
and and where we are at our stage

1342
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:38,480
they are closely watching all of it and

1343
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:38,799
they

1344
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:42,319
are waiting for that switch to flip

1345
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,240
because at that point we're we're going

1346
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:46,319
to be sort of at their level we're not

1347
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:46,880
there yet

1348
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:49,359
right and also yes i agree with that and

1349
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:49,920
also

1350
00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:52,880
um not just to see where we are at i

1351
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:53,200
think

1352
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,799
that might be the case with some of them

1353
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:56,240
and of course i'm just speculating here

1354
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:57,200
but also

1355
00:57:02,309 --> 00:57:00,240
based on whatever evidence that we're

1356
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:02,319
able to pull together on this

1357
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:05,280
um i don't think it's impossible at all

1358
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:06,079
that there would be

1359
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:08,559
at least one group that would be wanting

1360
00:57:11,910 --> 00:57:09,599
to

1361
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:11,920
influence that transformation or at

1362
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:13,359
least

1363
00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:14,880
make sure that it goes the way they want

1364
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:16,400
it to go so i think

1365
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:18,400
that you know if you're a

1366
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:20,559
counterintelligence officer on behalf of

1367
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:23,200
humanity and planet earth you would have

1368
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:24,400
to

1369
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,839
likelihood

1370
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:29,280
that at least one of those groups would

1371
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:30,880
be infiltrating your society

1372
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:33,760
to manage that process to their benefit

1373
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:34,960
if there is an advantage

1374
00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:36,240
as that might sound to someone who

1375
00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:37,599
doesn't study this but i think that's

1376
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:38,559
really possible right

1377
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:40,319
and i think the point that uh you're

1378
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:41,680
making here

1379
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:44,720
is that an advanced civilization

1380
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:47,119
right that is looking at us and watching

1381
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:47,760
us

1382
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:51,040
shoot each other with bullets right

1383
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:52,960
on our own planet right killing each

1384
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:55,920
other that that is not what is going on

1385
00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:58,559
on their planet right they're not

1386
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:00,640
battling their neighbors

1387
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:02,960
right they're not they've moved on from

1388
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:03,839
that

1389
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,280
they have achieved centralized

1390
00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:07,440
totalitarian control over their society

1391
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,240
undoubtedly

1392
00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:10,640
and i'm i'm assuming they are waiting

1393
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:11,520
for that to happen

1394
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:14,720
on our world and and and how do we in

1395
00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:16,880
in 60 seconds and then we'll pick this

1396
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:18,000
up when we come back

1397
00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:21,280
um how do we achieve that do we go to

1398
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:23,920
the ronald reagan speech at the united

1399
00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:24,960
nations

1400
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:28,559
right and go okay well maybe it's gonna

1401
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:30,880
take this but but how do we take that

1402
00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:35,190
uh well i don't know that i want us to

1403
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:36,640
take that step so first of all let me

1404
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:38,799
just get out of the way

1405
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:40,960
um but i do think that we're moving

1406
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,960
toward an inevitability of globalized

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00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:44,079
centralized control

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00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:47,200
so it's going to happen um

1409
00:58:50,309 --> 00:58:48,799
you know if i had the ability to control

1410
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:50,319
the future i don't know that i would

1411
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:51,760
want that to be the case

1412
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:55,359
in fact i wouldn't but i just think that

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00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:57,599
they are looking at us

1414
00:59:01,750 --> 00:59:00,400
i think that they all the evidence of

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00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:01,760
their society

1416
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:03,119
seems to point to the fact that they

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00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:05,280
have totalitarian control over their

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00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:07,839
own people like that's you really do get

1419
00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:09,760
that with all the encounters

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00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:12,559
um and i think that that's undoubtedly

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00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:14,240
what they're expecting from us

1422
00:59:18,430 --> 00:59:17,119
yeah but uh i'm not necessarily

1423
00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:18,440
referring to

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00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:24,960
the killing of your brothers how do we

1425
00:59:30,309 --> 00:59:26,240
get to the point of just

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00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,319
being earthlings instead of

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00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:32,400
you know what i mean islam and religion

1428
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:33,839
i mean it's they're really not all that

1429
00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:34,480
different

1430
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:36,960
you know you would require a strong

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00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,720
centralized authority

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00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:40,559
that has the ability to work out the

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00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:42,079
issues and they would have to have

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00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:44,480
a monopoly of violence of legal violence

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00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:46,240
which is what all nations do

1436
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:47,760
you know when the united states formed

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00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:49,440
of the disparate states

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00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:51,520
the states had to give up some authority

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00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:52,799
they weren't allowed to declare war on

1440
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:53,839
each other and things like that they

1441
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:55,680
couldn't have their own foreign policy

1442
00:59:59,589 --> 00:59:58,000
so you have to have centralized control

1443
01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:59,599
and the definition of a state one

1444
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:00,640
definition is that

1445
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:02,880
it is the repository of legal violence

1446
01:00:07,109 --> 01:00:04,400
right right like they're allowed

1447
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:07,119
and so if you want to avoid war among

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01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:08,160
people

1449
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:11,119
among nations rather there's the only

1450
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:12,160
way to do it would be to have a

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01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:14,079
centralized global authority that has

1452
01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:17,200
a monopoly of violence right

1453
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:20,319
right right can you have a centralized

1454
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:28,150
that's a good question i don't believe

1455
01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:29,040
so no

1456
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:31,280
right i don't believe so i think that

1457
01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:32,400
because you want

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01:00:37,829 --> 01:00:35,599
unicorns and rainbows you need freedom

1459
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:37,839
like you need people have to have the

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01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:38,880
ability

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01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:40,319
to make their own decisions about their

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01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:42,240
lives to at least some significant

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01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:42,960
degree

1464
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:44,160
they have to have the ability to

1465
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:46,480
disagree with each other as well

1466
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:47,680
because any free society is going to

1467
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:50,160
have arguments like that's the whole

1468
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:51,920
point like this is in our society today

1469
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:53,440
we have democrats and republicans

1470
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:55,920
trying to kill each other but if you're

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01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:58,559
going to have a free society

1472
01:01:02,309 --> 01:01:01,200
you therefore must realize that other

1473
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:02,319
people are not going to

1474
01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:05,440
agree with you or even like you

1475
01:01:08,309 --> 01:01:06,799
but that the agreement has to be that

1476
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:08,319
you're not going to kill each other

1477
01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:09,359
right

1478
01:01:13,349 --> 01:01:11,920
like that's the thing so but any any

1479
01:01:14,309 --> 01:01:13,359
free society is going to have to have

1480
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:14,319
different

1481
01:01:19,030 --> 01:01:18,079
let's take our breakfast

1482
01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:19,040
in the world are going to have the same

1483
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:20,720
interests that's right and that's what

1484
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:22,559
makes us great right that we are

1485
01:01:25,589 --> 01:01:23,359
different

1486
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:25,599
i mean i love fighting with uh richard

1487
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:27,520
it's the best argument ever let's take

1488
01:01:31,030 --> 01:01:29,040
our break right here

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01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:31,040
this is fade to black i am your host

1490
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:32,240
jimmy church tonight

1491
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:34,079
richard dolan is here we are talking

1492
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:35,359
about his new book

1493
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the alien agendas a speculative analysis

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01:01:50,829 --> 01:01:40,640
of those visiting earth more with

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us

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i'm murals

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jimmy church tonight richard dolan

1626
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:00,480
is here talking about his new book

1627
01:07:05,109 --> 01:07:03,440
the alien agendas and that is plural by

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the way tomorrow night linda moulton how

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is here our annual linda molten how

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lmh holiday special event and tonight uh

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richard this is

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our holiday event part one okay yeah

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yeah let's let's let's call it that i

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01:07:19,990 --> 01:07:18,400
wanna tell me i ask

1635
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:20,000
may i ask a favor of you you can do

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whatever you want it's your show

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01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:25,200
i i would just like to

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01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:28,720
mention that um i mean in addition to

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the book being out as a paperback and

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ebook obviously that's available on

1641
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currently on amazon.com

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01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:38,640
we're in the process of having an audio

1643
01:07:42,069 --> 01:07:40,319
book finished

1644
01:07:43,589 --> 01:07:42,079
and i'm not reading it i know some

1645
01:07:45,029 --> 01:07:43,599
people would like me to do that but

1646
01:07:46,990 --> 01:07:45,039
they have to understand it's it's just

1647
01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:47,000
too much work for me we have an

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01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:50,799
outstanding reader of this book

1649
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:52,400
i've been listening to him tracy and i

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01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:54,160
have been interacting with him all this

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01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:55,039
time

1652
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the guy's amazing book that audiobook

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01:08:00,309 --> 01:07:58,640
should be ready

1654
01:08:02,710 --> 01:08:00,319
in about i think about two weeks

1655
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:02,720
possibly so i'm very excited about that

1656
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:04,480
i just wanted to let people know

1657
01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:06,799
and also we are looking at a couple or

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at least one

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other significant platform by which we

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will be selling our book if people don't

1661
01:08:17,189 --> 01:08:14,000
want to go through amazon

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01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:17,199
we get it and uh tracy and i are setting

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01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:18,080
up

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01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:20,880
a method for that so more on that to

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01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:22,400
come when we have it but we are

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definitely

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moving to do that thank you for that

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01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:27,520
yeah absolutely i was very excited to

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see

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last week uh it was number one

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01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:33,839
it was number one on amazon for uh is it

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still there i i didn't check today i

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01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:37,279
actually i don't know i i did see that i

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01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:38,159
was like wow that's

1675
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that's pretty neat pretty cool i don't

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01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:41,440
think that's happened to me before

1677
01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:44,319
there's some pretty pretty good books uh

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number two three four five six right

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and they can blank my blank is what i'm

1680
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:49,920
saying

1681
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:52,319
now um can i talk to you about how you

1682
01:08:56,149 --> 01:08:53,040
wrote it

1683
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:56,159
actually yes um and there

1684
01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:59,839
is um i'm gonna throw this idea out

1685
01:09:03,110 --> 01:09:00,319
there

1686
01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:03,120
and tell me if i'm right or wrong okay

1687
01:09:07,030 --> 01:09:03,600
but

1688
01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:07,040
when you look at uh

1689
01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:09,839
the flow when you start with chapter one

1690
01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:11,520
right and you've got it all broken down

1691
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:12,719
you've got the it just

1692
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:15,199
it's just not the title of the chapter

1693
01:09:17,829 --> 01:09:15,839
you've got

1694
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:17,839
the elements of the chapter there right

1695
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:19,120
okay so chapter one

1696
01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:20,960
and then uh the same thing with chapter

1697
01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:22,640
two and there's a flow

1698
01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:24,719
there's a flow that is going on you get

1699
01:09:30,550 --> 01:09:26,239
to chapter three

1700
01:09:34,229 --> 01:09:30,560
did you lay this out in advance

1701
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:34,239
the subjects and then just let it rip

1702
01:09:37,749 --> 01:09:36,560
no no i i alway any time i've got a

1703
01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:37,759
significant

1704
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:40,960
writing project it's always mapped out

1705
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:43,120
i always map it out so i flow chart it

1706
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:44,960
it's like a series of ideas

1707
01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:48,640
now that can can and does change

1708
01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:50,080
during the process of writing like it

1709
01:09:55,189 --> 01:09:52,560
doesn't always end up exactly

1710
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:55,199
the way that i formulated it first but

1711
01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:56,640
no i i've got

1712
01:10:00,310 --> 01:09:58,239
i've got very specific ideas about how i

1713
01:10:01,110 --> 01:10:00,320
like to write anything uh any kind of

1714
01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:01,120
book

1715
01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:04,239
and to me it's a matter of knowing my

1716
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:05,120
word counts

1717
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:07,440
like knowing what the length is going to

1718
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:09,199
be what i'm shooting

1719
01:10:12,630 --> 01:10:10,880
which actually didn't happen in this

1720
01:10:14,830 --> 01:10:12,640
book it just kept getting longer

1721
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:14,840
but but there's always a sense of

1722
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:16,159
organization

1723
01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:19,280
and and what i want to work with um

1724
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:22,560
in this particular book um it was mostly

1725
01:10:25,030 --> 01:10:23,600
as i described

1726
01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:25,040
but there was actually a little bit more

1727
01:10:27,990 --> 01:10:27,120
of an organic flow actually now that i

1728
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:28,000
think of it

1729
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:31,199
so i was adding things as i was thinking

1730
01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:32,880
of them in in certain cases yeah

1731
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:34,400
but i would say overall it was it was

1732
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:36,640
organized before i started i felt it

1733
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:38,880
i felt it in the way that it is that it

1734
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:40,880
was written and the way that it flowed i

1735
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:41,920
thought to myself

1736
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:44,800
uh there there's an organic quality here

1737
01:10:50,310 --> 01:10:47,280
it just flows and it seems that

1738
01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:50,320
uh you laid out your map and then just

1739
01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:52,000
wrote because it flows

1740
01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:55,040
everything flows into uh the next

1741
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:56,000
subject uh

1742
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:58,159
very smoothly almost like we're doing

1743
01:11:02,070 --> 01:10:59,040
this show

1744
01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:02,080
right it's it's uh it's got that feel to

1745
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:02,800
it

1746
01:11:08,630 --> 01:11:05,920
um well um i thank you for that but i

1747
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:08,640
i must say that i did have a general

1748
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:10,560
organization in my mind when i set out

1749
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:12,080
to do this

1750
01:11:17,270 --> 01:11:15,199
um but there there was a lot of

1751
01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:17,280
there was a lot of organic elements of

1752
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:20,080
writing this book that's definitely true

1753
01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:22,960
it flowed out actually this was a faster

1754
01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:24,159
book for me to write than anything else

1755
01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:25,760
i've ever done

1756
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:28,239
so i think maybe you're you might be

1757
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:29,760
feeling some of that as well

1758
01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:32,960
and there is a uh another zone here now

1759
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:34,480
let's go ahead and let's get

1760
01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:36,719
let's get a little uncomfortable which

1761
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:37,600
is this

1762
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:40,000
um uh you know i've read all of your

1763
01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:40,960
stuff

1764
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:44,400
uh and this book

1765
01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:46,800
is different and it's different for a

1766
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:48,400
lot of different reasons it's different

1767
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:51,040
in its writing style it's very personal

1768
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:54,480
um but second it's it's the content

1769
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:56,800
where you have discussed some of this

1770
01:12:01,990 --> 01:11:58,640
stuff in the past

1771
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:02,000
lightly you've written about some of it

1772
01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:05,360
in the past the majority of this uh

1773
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:08,480
for the richard dolan fans out there are

1774
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:10,239
going to be a little bit surprised about

1775
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:11,040
some of the

1776
01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:13,120
areas that you went into aren't they

1777
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:14,880
absolutely and a lot of it i

1778
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:17,280
i'm just going to tell you and and

1779
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:18,880
listeners right now

1780
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:21,120
um i'm taking a big chance on some of

1781
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:22,480
the things that i've written about and i

1782
01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:22,800
can

1783
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:26,080
very well be wrong about any number

1784
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:28,080
or many number of things that are in

1785
01:12:30,870 --> 01:12:29,360
this book so

1786
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:30,880
this is why i call it a speculative

1787
01:12:35,110 --> 01:12:33,600
analysis i'm not pretending here that

1788
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:35,120
i've got definitive answers

1789
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:38,560
what i've set out to do however is

1790
01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:40,080
you know my previous work has always

1791
01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:42,719
been very uh historically factual i've

1792
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:44,239
tried to be extremely accurate i've

1793
01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:46,719
tried not to

1794
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:49,199
speculate too much into areas where

1795
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:50,560
there's just not enough facts to work

1796
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:51,520
with

1797
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:52,960
and this is a different kind of a book

1798
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:54,960
and i came to this

1799
01:12:57,990 --> 01:12:56,880
this actually came out of an online

1800
01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:58,000
lecture

1801
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:00,480
that i gave last june which was called

1802
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:03,520
an executive briefing the alien agendas

1803
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:06,480
that was the germ of this book and what

1804
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:08,159
i wanted to do then and now

1805
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:11,760
is to i said to myself look i've i've

1806
01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:14,480
studied this subject for several decades

1807
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:15,840
now

1808
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:17,600
i've looked at a lot of the facts i have

1809
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:19,600
studied a great deal of

1810
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,920
encounter cases even though i hadn't

1811
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:23,760
always written about them i've known

1812
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:25,520
them very very well

1813
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:29,280
and i thought it's really time

1814
01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:32,800
for me to try my hand at

1815
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:34,480
looking at the biggest of the big

1816
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:37,360
pictures that is what are these beings

1817
01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:39,679
and what the hell do they want like why

1818
01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:40,719
are they here

1819
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:42,560
and so that's what i really tried to do

1820
01:13:45,830 --> 01:13:44,000
but i didn't

1821
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:45,840
i didn't want to push the reader into

1822
01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:47,920
one conclusion or another what i really

1823
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:49,440
tried to do

1824
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:52,560
is to look at the data that i i think is

1825
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:54,159
the best data

1826
01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:58,880
and to organize the book accordingly

1827
01:14:02,630 --> 01:14:00,880
and and one of the big surprises you

1828
01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:02,640
know that came to me when i was doing

1829
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:03,920
all of this

1830
01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:06,719
was finally ultimately recognizing

1831
01:14:09,430 --> 01:14:08,239
something that i had pushed away for so

1832
01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:09,440
long which is

1833
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:13,040
how many ufo occupant

1834
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:15,920
uh cases how many of these occupants

1835
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:17,760
look totally human

1836
01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:20,320
like that's just something that's it's

1837
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:21,840
it's an uncomfortable thing it seems to

1838
01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:23,679
me that a lot of ufo

1839
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:27,120
researchers they're aware of it but they

1840
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:28,719
sometimes some of them will skirt it

1841
01:14:33,430 --> 01:14:30,960
others other people won't

1842
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:33,440
but the fact is that there are a large

1843
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:34,159
number

1844
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:37,280
of cases historically and current in

1845
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:39,120
which people will say

1846
01:14:43,910 --> 01:14:42,400
i was brought to a craft the people

1847
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:43,920
running this were totally human looking

1848
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:45,040
like you get that again

1849
01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:47,920
and again now it is also true that there

1850
01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:49,280
are more cases

1851
01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:51,040
of people encountering gray aliens

1852
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:52,960
whether short or tall

1853
01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:55,360
but right behind them are humans and

1854
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:56,080
then you get

1855
01:15:02,070 --> 01:14:59,120
other types you get you know some

1856
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:02,080
smaller number of reptilian claims and

1857
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:04,000
insect or mantid cases and

1858
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:05,199
and then what i sometimes call the

1859
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:06,800
kitchen sink which is a small number of

1860
01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:07,360
just

1861
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:09,360
this totally bizarre variety of a lot of

1862
01:15:13,590 --> 01:15:10,560
things but

1863
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:13,600
but the human occupants is

1864
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:16,239
you know just i was looking at this and

1865
01:15:21,189 --> 01:15:18,719
at some point i just thought

1866
01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:21,199
it would be dishonest intellectually of

1867
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:21,920
me

1868
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:26,400
on now we can say well

1869
01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:28,800
maybe it's black budget classified tech

1870
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:30,480
the germans after the war

1871
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:33,199
you know whatever but i actually don't

1872
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:34,400
think that that's the best

1873
01:15:39,669 --> 01:15:38,320
solution to this um i i've thought that

1874
01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:39,679
there are other solutions and i tried to

1875
01:15:43,430 --> 01:15:40,640
lay that out

1876
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:43,440
and in fact the biggest risk probably

1877
01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:44,800
that i took in this whole book is in

1878
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:45,520
chapter one

1879
01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:48,480
that's right that's where i'm going and

1880
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:49,679
see this is yeah i call it

1881
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:52,880
a fresh look at our origins and i

1882
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:55,520
openly speculate over the possibility

1883
01:16:00,070 --> 01:15:57,120
that the human race was

1884
01:16:02,390 --> 01:16:00,080
genetically enhanced let's say roughly

1885
01:16:04,870 --> 01:16:02,400
40 000 years ago

1886
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:04,880
and i came across this theory and i

1887
01:16:09,189 --> 01:16:06,880
wrote about this in the book

1888
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:09,199
from a deceased friend of mine a woman

1889
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:10,000
that i i

1890
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:11,760
really admired she was a good friend her

1891
01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:14,239
name was dr colleen clements and she

1892
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:15,679
taught at the rochester institute of

1893
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:16,800
technology

1894
01:16:20,950 --> 01:16:19,199
and the university of rochester her

1895
01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:20,960
interest in ufos really caused her

1896
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:22,960
career to suffer but she was a brilliant

1897
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:24,000
lady

1898
01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:25,920
uh she was one of we there was three of

1899
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:27,840
us in rochester

1900
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:29,760
another friend was dr bernie angelo he's

1901
01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:31,440
still around he's a great guy

1902
01:16:35,510 --> 01:16:33,199
but the three of us were our own little

1903
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:35,520
clutch in my early years in the ufo

1904
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:36,320
field

1905
01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:39,360
back in 2001 2002 uh we were all buddies

1906
01:16:43,030 --> 01:16:41,280
we hung out we talked and colleen was a

1907
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:43,040
really brave person

1908
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:44,400
but she wrote a couple of books and this

1909
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:46,800
was a theory that she was exploring

1910
01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:49,120
and based on you know not just something

1911
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:50,159
that came out of her head she was

1912
01:16:55,270 --> 01:16:51,840
looking at science

1913
01:16:59,669 --> 01:16:55,280
and i just picked up on it and what i

1914
01:17:01,590 --> 01:16:59,679
what i've learned is that we have a

1915
01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:01,600
we have a particular gene called the

1916
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:03,199
microcephaly gene

1917
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:05,840
and a particular thing in it known as an

1918
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:06,480
allele

1919
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,159
geneticist but this is what you learn

1920
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:12,719
and one of those alleles geneticists

1921
01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:13,600
will tell you

1922
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:16,880
will tell everyone is only something

1923
01:17:21,910 --> 01:17:18,480
that we've had quite recently

1924
01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:21,920
they call it the d allele and

1925
01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:24,640
and this is a very important uh element

1926
01:17:26,709 --> 01:17:25,120
for

1927
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:26,719
human brain growth and development this

1928
01:17:31,510 --> 01:17:28,880
is what the geneticists all agree on

1929
01:17:32,950 --> 01:17:31,520
and they all agree that we got it they

1930
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:32,960
estimate because they actually don't

1931
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:34,000
know and and the low

1932
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:35,520
estimate actually is as low as something

1933
01:17:39,110 --> 01:17:37,360
like 20 000 years high estimate

1934
01:17:40,950 --> 01:17:39,120
something like 60

1935
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:40,960
000 years so they split the difference

1936
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:43,040
they come to roughly 40.

1937
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:45,520
it could be more it could be less but

1938
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:46,640
what i

1939
01:17:51,910 --> 01:17:49,679
uh learned from them is that

1940
01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:51,920
they all are adamant that this allele

1941
01:17:54,070 --> 01:17:52,800
did not come

1942
01:17:56,390 --> 01:17:54,080
from ourselves it came through

1943
01:17:57,910 --> 01:17:56,400
interbreeding with another species

1944
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:57,920
why do they believe this i don't know

1945
01:18:01,110 --> 01:17:59,920
why but that is their consensus

1946
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:01,120
and there doesn't seem to be any

1947
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:03,120
argument argument about this

1948
01:18:06,470 --> 01:18:04,800
and so the obvious candidate would be

1949
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:06,480
neanderthal since humans

1950
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:08,640
did we know that we interbred with the

1951
01:18:12,149 --> 01:18:10,000
neanderthals

1952
01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:12,159
in that era and there was actually

1953
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:13,360
another human

1954
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:15,440
group at the time called the denisovans

1955
01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:17,360
which were very very very similar to

1956
01:18:22,229 --> 01:18:19,040
neanderthals

1957
01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:22,239
but the thing is that we have

1958
01:18:25,750 --> 01:18:24,560
enough of the neanderthal dna analyzed

1959
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:25,760
at this point

1960
01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:27,199
and the fact is that they don't have

1961
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:29,360
that genetic material it's just not

1962
01:18:32,390 --> 01:18:29,920
there

1963
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:32,400
nor are the denisovans apparently and so

1964
01:18:36,310 --> 01:18:33,840
the question is if it didn't

1965
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:36,320
come now maybe there's this hail mary

1966
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:37,920
pass long shot at the last minute

1967
01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:38,560
someone

1968
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:40,719
10 years from now may find it but the

1969
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:42,640
fact is they've been looking for it

1970
01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:44,880
very diligently and it just doesn't seem

1971
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:46,000
to be there

1972
01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:47,440
and we've had some very good neanderthal

1973
01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:49,440
dna specimens by the way

1974
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:53,199
so if it isn't those groups

1975
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:54,880
then the obvious question is who's the

1976
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:57,280
daddy like where did it come from

1977
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:59,920
now in colleen's original in formulation

1978
01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:00,719
of it

1979
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:02,080
she looked at all of that she wrote her

1980
01:19:06,149 --> 01:19:03,920
book 12 years ago

1981
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:06,159
and we and we didn't have as much

1982
01:19:08,950 --> 01:19:07,920
information about neanderthal dna at the

1983
01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:08,960
time and she

1984
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:10,719
openly said look maybe they'll find it

1985
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:13,120
and my whole theory will be shot

1986
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:14,880
when i started researching this i looked

1987
01:19:19,910 --> 01:19:16,960
to see i would assume i had assumed

1988
01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:19,920
actually that they had found the that

1989
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:20,800
genetic

1990
01:19:23,910 --> 01:19:23,040
material in their dna and and to my

1991
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:23,920
shock

1992
01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:26,000
they hadn't nope and i thought wow

1993
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:27,199
that's quite interesting

1994
01:19:31,270 --> 01:19:29,600
so hurst theory and what i actually

1995
01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:31,280
think is an interesting theory

1996
01:19:35,030 --> 01:19:32,159
is that it did come from

1997
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:35,040
extraterrestrials well see this is

1998
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:37,360
this is what's so interesting for me for

1999
01:19:42,149 --> 01:19:39,040
you to start the book

2000
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:42,159
uh with this subject because this is a

2001
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:46,480
science subject for you right this isn't

2002
01:19:50,229 --> 01:19:49,360
yet right this is just how did we get

2003
01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:50,239
here what were

2004
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:52,480
our origins and i think that there was

2005
01:19:56,870 --> 01:19:53,600
enough there

2006
01:20:00,550 --> 01:19:56,880
today for us to take a close look i mean

2007
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:00,560
not only uh uh you know genetic pairs

2008
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:03,840
and and why are we 46 and and primates

2009
01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:05,280
are 48 or whatever

2010
01:20:08,629 --> 01:20:08,320
there there's that aspect of it uh but

2011
01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:08,639
the

2012
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:15,440
homo sapien sapien just appeared

2013
01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:17,760
and the things just appeared right

2014
01:20:20,709 --> 01:20:19,440
there's nothing in the fossil record

2015
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:20,719
before us

2016
01:20:25,110 --> 01:20:24,000
uh for a discussion there's that part of

2017
01:20:28,470 --> 01:20:25,120
it but the other thing is

2018
01:20:32,229 --> 01:20:28,480
is the changes that happened to only

2019
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:32,239
us and and that dll and

2020
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:34,800
and and other things that enabled us

2021
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:36,960
richard you pointed out in the book

2022
01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:40,719
uh that made us wonder about the stars

2023
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:42,639
right to think about the self well and

2024
01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:43,840
also right

2025
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:46,719
absolutely um as far as our fossil

2026
01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:48,320
record now goes human beings

2027
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:50,560
as homo sapiens sapiens have now existed

2028
01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:52,960
for more than 300 000 years

2029
01:20:56,470 --> 01:20:55,040
which just blows my mind you know when i

2030
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:56,480
was a kid it was

2031
01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:58,880
cruel magnum man lived 35 000 years ago

2032
01:21:02,149 --> 01:21:00,800
maybe 40. and they just kept pushing

2033
01:21:04,229 --> 01:21:02,159
that number out

2034
01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:04,239
um but for all of that time we were a

2035
01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:07,840
certain way and and a roughly 42

2036
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:10,560
000 years ago you see really hard

2037
01:21:13,110 --> 01:21:11,199
evidence

2038
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:13,120
of a creative explosion in the human

2039
01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:14,719
mind that's right and there's really no

2040
01:21:18,950 --> 01:21:16,159
way to avoid this

2041
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:18,960
uh you look at there's cave art which

2042
01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:20,960
art human artwork prior to that

2043
01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:24,480
is i mean it's it's nice but it's it's

2044
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:26,960
not anywhere near at the level of what

2045
01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:29,760
you see suddenly exploding about 42 000

2046
01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:30,800
years ago

2047
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:33,600
uh in ditto with tool making and so it's

2048
01:21:39,189 --> 01:21:37,120
very obvious that around that time

2049
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:39,199
something really did happen to us

2050
01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:41,440
intellectually mentally

2051
01:21:47,590 --> 01:21:44,800
it's a qualitative shift and so

2052
01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:47,600
i don't know that that theory is correct

2053
01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:48,400
that it's

2054
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:51,760
it's the introduction of that dll

2055
01:21:55,910 --> 01:21:53,679
in the microcephaly gene i don't know

2056
01:21:57,189 --> 01:21:55,920
but i think it's at least a reasonable

2057
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:57,199
speculation

2058
01:22:02,070 --> 01:22:00,239
and uh you know colleen had introduced

2059
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:02,080
also her she was very good at her study

2060
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:03,679
of mythology

2061
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:06,239
human mythological stories and so forth

2062
01:22:08,550 --> 01:22:07,840
sky god myths and things like this and

2063
01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:08,560
she

2064
01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:11,440
used that to support the argument that

2065
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:12,960
this actually did come from that time

2066
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:13,840
period and

2067
01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:14,960
people can read the book i don't know

2068
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:16,159
how much of that we want to get into

2069
01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:18,800
here but it is a very interesting

2070
01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:20,560
case and i think when you look at the

2071
01:22:23,910 --> 01:22:22,400
sum total of it you

2072
01:22:26,310 --> 01:22:23,920
might well come away with the idea that

2073
01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:26,320
we were enhanced maybe by some group

2074
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:27,520
that said

2075
01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:30,320
those humans close but not quite let's

2076
01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:32,080
see if we can tweak them a little bit

2077
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:33,440
we'll tweak this group here and then

2078
01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:35,360
we'll let that that enhancement spread

2079
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:35,760
through

2080
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:37,679
you know positive selection which is

2081
01:22:41,030 --> 01:22:39,840
what all geneticists say did happen with

2082
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:41,040
this dll

2083
01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:44,320
now so that lays out now

2084
01:22:50,229 --> 01:22:48,159
uh the book there isn't

2085
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:50,239
this isn't a book with sightings in it

2086
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:52,159
this isn't a book about

2087
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:55,120
ufo cases and crash retrievals i want to

2088
01:22:59,669 --> 01:22:57,040
correct you there there are

2089
01:23:02,550 --> 01:22:59,679
i do have a number of those in in the in

2090
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:05,590
let's hold on now this is a book about

2091
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:08,880
us that's what the book is about this

2092
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:12,560
is this is a book about um humans

2093
01:23:19,750 --> 01:23:16,960
and and the the alien and advanced

2094
01:23:20,709 --> 01:23:19,760
uh civilizations out there that are here

2095
01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:20,719
interacting

2096
01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:24,960
with us as humans and and that is a

2097
01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:28,239
crazy departure for richard dolan yes it

2098
01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:29,360
is absolutely

2099
01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:31,199
as for example i have a theory about the

2100
01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:34,000
human looking beings that we encounter

2101
01:23:41,189 --> 01:23:37,600
um and it's only a theory but i actually

2102
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:41,199
i openly wonder if it at some

2103
01:23:44,470 --> 01:23:43,040
ancient time in our history could have

2104
01:23:46,149 --> 01:23:44,480
been 40 000 years ago it could have been

2105
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:46,159
more recent than that

2106
01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:48,239
but that some group of humans were let's

2107
01:23:52,709 --> 01:23:49,760
just say adopted

2108
01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:52,719
by another group taken and raised and

2109
01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:55,120
brought into a totally different culture

2110
01:23:59,830 --> 01:23:58,239
and um as a result would have

2111
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:59,840
basically nothing in common with us

2112
01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:01,199
culturally you know they would be a

2113
01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:02,960
completely different kind of a group

2114
01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:05,520
um i think of that because there are

2115
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:07,040
actually a number of cases

2116
01:24:11,110 --> 01:24:09,040
i got think of the famous travis walton

2117
01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:11,120
case it's actually a really interesting

2118
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:12,880
one you know here's travis

2119
01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:16,320
uh aboard a craft in 1975 he sees very

2120
01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:17,760
non-human looking

2121
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:19,760
aliens initially when he gets up from

2122
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:20,960
that table

2123
01:24:24,629 --> 01:24:22,400
he goes into another part of the ship

2124
01:24:27,510 --> 01:24:24,639
and he's encounters these

2125
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:27,520
absolutely human looking beings who

2126
01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:28,639
don't even really

2127
01:24:33,189 --> 01:24:31,760
speak to him and don't interact with him

2128
01:24:34,790 --> 01:24:33,199
the way that we will

2129
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:34,800
act with each other their behavior is

2130
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:37,120
very different but there's humans and

2131
01:24:39,590 --> 01:24:38,960
non-human aliens like aboard this one

2132
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:39,600
craft

2133
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:42,000
and and you know has anyone really even

2134
01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:43,360
bothered to ask

2135
01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:45,600
why would that be like i haven't really

2136
01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:46,639
listened to anyone's

2137
01:24:52,149 --> 01:24:50,239
try to explain that so my my

2138
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:52,159
hunch and that's all that this is at

2139
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:54,000
this point is that

2140
01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:58,320
these these are not black budget humans

2141
01:25:01,590 --> 01:24:59,920
working through the system these are

2142
01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:01,600
humans that

2143
01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:04,800
probably are us because i i'd still have

2144
01:25:09,030 --> 01:25:06,480
a difficult time believing

2145
01:25:09,990 --> 01:25:09,040
in absolutely human-looking beings

2146
01:25:11,669 --> 01:25:10,000
evolving

2147
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:11,679
perfectly like us in another world i

2148
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:14,000
just i i think i could believe that

2149
01:25:18,310 --> 01:25:16,159
there would be humanoid beings that look

2150
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:18,320
maybe a little bit like us but exactly

2151
01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:20,400
like us it's difficult for me to wrap my

2152
01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:22,560
brain around maybe that's the case

2153
01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:24,000
but i do wonder if there are humans that

2154
01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:26,000
have been taken and that were brought

2155
01:25:31,270 --> 01:25:29,840
into another alien culture and that just

2156
01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:31,280
now they they do the work maybe they're

2157
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:32,639
in upper management at this point for

2158
01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:33,120
all i know

2159
01:25:38,629 --> 01:25:36,960
yeah certainly and i i kind of take a

2160
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:38,639
different approach

2161
01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:41,040
um so i'll throw this out there for you

2162
01:25:45,189 --> 01:25:42,000
is that

2163
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:45,199
the uh the particles of the universe

2164
01:25:49,189 --> 01:25:47,920
are the same everywhere in the universe

2165
01:25:51,430 --> 01:25:49,199
gases are the same

2166
01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:51,440
carbon's the same everything's uh

2167
01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:52,880
hydrogen helium

2168
01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:56,320
all of that is the same and so are amino

2169
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,040
acids

2170
01:26:01,910 --> 01:25:59,520
and they only have so many ways of

2171
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:01,920
combining atoms molecules

2172
01:26:05,430 --> 01:26:04,880
and we know that meteorites have been

2173
01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:05,440
found

2174
01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:08,480
on earth with frigging sugars on it

2175
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:11,920
for rna absolutely now if we go

2176
01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:16,080
that far then we i the only way to

2177
01:26:20,629 --> 01:26:16,800
deduce

2178
01:26:24,550 --> 01:26:20,639
any of this is that life must be

2179
01:26:27,189 --> 01:26:24,560
if not the same pretty damn close

2180
01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:27,199
i agree with you and actually i have a

2181
01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:29,280
significant discussion on that in this

2182
01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:30,159
book so

2183
01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:32,639
i don't disagree with that at all um and

2184
01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:34,320
it and for that reason i think it might

2185
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:36,239
be possible that we would see

2186
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:39,280
like having two arms two legs two

2187
01:26:42,470 --> 01:26:41,840
uh forward-looking eyes nose ears mouth

2188
01:26:45,669 --> 01:26:42,480
like all of

2189
01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:45,679
those are very logical

2190
01:26:50,310 --> 01:26:48,560
and for a successful organism to have

2191
01:26:52,070 --> 01:26:50,320
having two eyes five six feet above the

2192
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:52,080
ground is that's a great idea

2193
01:26:55,189 --> 01:26:53,360
and you wouldn't want to you wouldn't be

2194
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:55,199
able to have four arms

2195
01:26:59,590 --> 01:26:57,840
or six legs like that's not efficient

2196
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:59,600
because every new thing that the body

2197
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:00,000
gets

2198
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:03,040
it comes at a cost of energy so actually

2199
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:05,280
the way that we are designed as bipedal

2200
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:06,719
organisms

2201
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:09,120
is it is a great design and it wouldn't

2202
01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:10,239
be surprising

2203
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:12,480
that other technologically proficient

2204
01:27:15,510 --> 01:27:13,360
species

2205
01:27:16,470 --> 01:27:15,520
develop in a similar way yeah and the

2206
01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:16,480
only difference

2207
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:19,520
i i'm i i would think

2208
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:21,920
is gravity right so you've got extreme

2209
01:27:25,110 --> 01:27:23,920
gravity on another planet well you're

2210
01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:25,120
short and fat

2211
01:27:29,110 --> 01:27:27,679
right less gravity uh everybody is the

2212
01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:29,120
los angeles lakers

2213
01:27:32,470 --> 01:27:31,760
right and right and eight foot tall and

2214
01:27:34,229 --> 01:27:32,480
then but

2215
01:27:35,510 --> 01:27:34,239
but the basics are the basics ten

2216
01:27:36,870 --> 01:27:35,520
fingers ten toes right

2217
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:36,880
by and there might be other differences

2218
01:27:40,470 --> 01:27:39,120
like the power of the sun so maybe if

2219
01:27:41,350 --> 01:27:40,480
you've got a really strong sun you might

2220
01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:41,360
have

2221
01:27:45,430 --> 01:27:43,920
dark shades over your eyes like the

2222
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:45,440
grays

2223
01:27:48,709 --> 01:27:47,440
exactly things like that like that's

2224
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:48,719
entirely likely it seems

2225
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:51,760
but the odds of this is the thing

2226
01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:54,719
and i i will talk richard dawkins into

2227
01:28:00,310 --> 01:27:56,800
the ground on this subject

2228
01:28:03,110 --> 01:28:00,320
is that the odds of dna

2229
01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:03,120
just happening because of a lightning

2230
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:03,760
strike

2231
01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:08,560
right on moss in a riverbed on a crystal

2232
01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:11,120
and then dna right just appears and here

2233
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:11,760
we are

2234
01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:14,960
i'm not buying into that hey it's it's

2235
01:28:17,990 --> 01:28:16,960
it's it's too crazy the odds are

2236
01:28:20,629 --> 01:28:18,000
more of a stream you're more of a

2237
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:20,639
panspermia theorist i said i'm okay with

2238
01:28:23,430 --> 01:28:21,040
that

2239
01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:23,440
it's yeah i think you you're probably

2240
01:28:27,030 --> 01:28:24,239
right

2241
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:27,040
and so why wouldn't okay so we have the

2242
01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:28,960
the panspermia element

2243
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:31,040
but you're right you know the drive-by

2244
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:32,880
okay let's check in let's see if they

2245
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:35,040
got the wheel yet oh they're not even

2246
01:28:38,470 --> 01:28:37,840
dreaming they're not even contemplating

2247
01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:38,480
death

2248
01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:41,520
right so we've got to fix that

2249
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:44,400
we got to get the neurons clicking in in

2250
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:45,360
their brain

2251
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:48,719
so their world opens up now here's one

2252
01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:49,920
thing that actually i

2253
01:28:53,030 --> 01:28:51,600
i didn't think about until i was writing

2254
01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:53,040
this book and what you just said

2255
01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:55,440
prompted me to remember this

2256
01:28:59,350 --> 01:28:57,440
so you know here where we're talking

2257
01:29:02,149 --> 01:28:59,360
about ancient aliens

2258
01:29:03,430 --> 01:29:02,159
uh basically and an extremely long

2259
01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:03,440
observation

2260
01:29:08,229 --> 01:29:05,760
by them of us and when you really think

2261
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:08,239
about that in terms of human society

2262
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:11,760
it is impossible for us to imagine

2263
01:29:17,030 --> 01:29:15,280
our species doing any kind of ultra

2264
01:29:18,310 --> 01:29:17,040
long-term monitoring of anything that

2265
01:29:19,830 --> 01:29:18,320
goes on that long

2266
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:19,840
thousands of years are you kidding we

2267
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:21,840
can't even plan four years ahead

2268
01:29:25,189 --> 01:29:23,440
right two years ago like it's impossible

2269
01:29:29,189 --> 01:29:25,199
for us and so what i

2270
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:29,199
i'm asking myself like if there is

2271
01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:31,920
a long term like multiple thousands of

2272
01:29:37,590 --> 01:29:34,400
years observation plan

2273
01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:37,600
what would that require of them and my

2274
01:29:40,470 --> 01:29:38,000
best

2275
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:40,480
answer is that it would require them not

2276
01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:42,880
to be fully biologically based

2277
01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:46,639
civilization in other words uh

2278
01:29:50,830 --> 01:29:48,239
they they could be biologically based

2279
01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:50,840
individuals yes but the the

2280
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:53,120
dominant uh

2281
01:29:59,189 --> 01:29:56,960
organization the controlling mechanism

2282
01:30:00,390 --> 01:29:59,199
probably isn't biological it would be

2283
01:30:02,310 --> 01:30:00,400
artificial maybe

2284
01:30:03,669 --> 01:30:02,320
maybe a series of algorithms some

2285
01:30:07,030 --> 01:30:03,679
artificial intelligence

2286
01:30:08,709 --> 01:30:07,040
something that goes beyond the lifetime

2287
01:30:10,229 --> 01:30:08,719
of individual organisms that have their

2288
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own egos their own passions their own

2289
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desires

2290
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:14,080
their own foibles so i think and that is

2291
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:15,199
why i believe that these are

2292
01:30:17,750 --> 01:30:17,280
totalitarian types of societies like i

2293
01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:17,760
think

2294
01:30:22,629 --> 01:30:20,800
they're very to have that level of

2295
01:30:24,229 --> 01:30:22,639
planning and implementation over a long

2296
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:24,239
period of time

2297
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even in the last hundred years if you've

2298
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got like the grays or

2299
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other beings that have been here a long

2300
01:30:34,310 --> 01:30:31,360
period of time for an extended

2301
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program that would require a very tight

2302
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:35,920
level of centralized control

2303
01:30:39,590 --> 01:30:38,400
and maybe just maybe not biologically

2304
01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:39,600
based well

2305
01:30:44,149 --> 01:30:42,320
why not because that's what we do

2306
01:30:47,910 --> 01:30:44,159
richard we're sending probes to mars

2307
01:30:50,870 --> 01:30:47,920
right to saturn to jupiter to mars

2308
01:30:51,430 --> 01:30:50,880
right there isn't a a biological element

2309
01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:51,440
to that

2310
01:30:55,830 --> 01:30:54,080
there isn't number one it's the easiest

2311
01:30:58,229 --> 01:30:55,840
way to get it done

2312
01:31:00,390 --> 01:30:58,239
and and make those observation of these

2313
01:31:00,950 --> 01:31:00,400
alien worlds in our solar system number

2314
01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:00,960
one

2315
01:31:05,430 --> 01:31:04,239
and number two that to that centralized

2316
01:31:08,229 --> 01:31:05,440
organization

2317
01:31:09,990 --> 01:31:08,239
it's right there it's called nasa right

2318
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:10,000
the probes are answering

2319
01:31:13,110 --> 01:31:12,560
to a centralized system they would have

2320
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to be

2321
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doing right approaching everything the

2322
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same way why not

2323
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it's the only way you could do it if

2324
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you're gonna have a long long-term plan

2325
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because otherwise if you've got

2326
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you know think of the history of uh

2327
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human

2328
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dissension yeah amongst the troops

2329
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yeah like one king dies his son comes in

2330
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and does something totally different and

2331
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screws things up and

2332
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like nothing lasts i mean once in a

2333
01:31:41,350 --> 01:31:39,199
while you can get like the roman empire

2334
01:31:44,870 --> 01:31:41,360
but that's that's an anomaly most

2335
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most and even that was very volatile

2336
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and that only lasted 600 years if you

2337
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think about it

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we need to take our break right here

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richard let's get that

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is this is the thing

2466
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you start to get into species

2467
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right and to see you uh comment on

2468
01:38:01,990 --> 01:38:00,480
and go in depth in this book uh you left

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nothing untouched here

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right we've got it all we've got it all

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01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:05,520
we've got reptilians

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01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:08,560
right we've got uh hubrids uh

2473
01:38:12,629 --> 01:38:11,360
we've got this we've got just about ever

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01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:12,639
of course the grays

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um everything is here is this is this

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uncomfortable are you were you worried

2477
01:38:23,030 --> 01:38:19,679
about

2478
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:23,040
these zones that you were going into and

2479
01:38:26,790 --> 01:38:24,719
also there are so many out there that

2480
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know a lot about these subjects right

2481
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now you have to uh you have to bring

2482
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your a game

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with this were you conscious of all of

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that

2485
01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:36,080
i wasn't particularly concerned about

2486
01:38:41,030 --> 01:38:37,679
that look my whole

2487
01:38:42,550 --> 01:38:41,040
career i've always been going into areas

2488
01:38:44,310 --> 01:38:42,560
that everyone has said no you can't do

2489
01:38:45,430 --> 01:38:44,320
that you're supposed to do this and my

2490
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attitude is i will

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i will go where i want to go and i've

2492
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always been that way

2493
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um no i i don't think that i felt

2494
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uncomfortable at all actually i was

2495
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:55,679
i felt honestly i it was a bit

2496
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liberating

2497
01:39:00,709 --> 01:38:58,320
to be able to write about some of these

2498
01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:00,719
things in the way that i have

2499
01:39:07,109 --> 01:39:04,560
um and i don't i don't feel a strong

2500
01:39:07,590 --> 01:39:07,119
concern about having to be right or

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01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:07,600
having

2502
01:39:11,910 --> 01:39:09,840
to be the best at this i really honestly

2503
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:11,920
don't i'm at a point where i i wanted to

2504
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write a book

2505
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that satisfied myself first and foremost

2506
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:17,840
that answered that dealt with some

2507
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interesting

2508
01:39:23,189 --> 01:39:22,239
issues that i personally wanted to

2509
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explore

2510
01:39:27,910 --> 01:39:25,840
and that is why i did this book and

2511
01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:27,920
hopefully if readers want to come along

2512
01:39:32,550 --> 01:39:29,520
for the ride and they like it

2513
01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:32,560
fabulous but i will say that my number

2514
01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:34,159
one audience for this book was myself

2515
01:39:39,109 --> 01:39:35,840
and i wanted to

2516
01:39:40,870 --> 01:39:39,119
i wanted to write this as an exploration

2517
01:39:43,030 --> 01:39:40,880
so that i could figure a few things out

2518
01:39:46,149 --> 01:39:43,040
and that's really what happened

2519
01:39:46,950 --> 01:39:46,159
uh so for example one of the things that

2520
01:39:53,590 --> 01:39:46,960
i

2521
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:53,600
the grays

2522
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:55,600
um and and all of the other non-human

2523
01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:56,639
ones

2524
01:40:01,669 --> 01:40:00,000
i i feel fairly confident in saying when

2525
01:40:04,390 --> 01:40:01,679
i look at the data that they are

2526
01:40:06,390 --> 01:40:04,400
relatively all new arrivals they have

2527
01:40:08,629 --> 01:40:06,400
not been here for thousands of years

2528
01:40:09,910 --> 01:40:08,639
i just don't see that in the record

2529
01:40:15,590 --> 01:40:09,920
human

2530
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:15,600
observers

2531
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:18,400
yes when you go through the long history

2532
01:40:20,950 --> 01:40:19,440
of encounters

2533
01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:20,960
if you go through like valet and chris

2534
01:40:24,790 --> 01:40:22,560
obeck's book wonders in the sky for

2535
01:40:28,390 --> 01:40:24,800
example that's a very good book

2536
01:40:30,550 --> 01:40:28,400
or other accounts of human of our

2537
01:40:33,830 --> 01:40:30,560
encounters with other beings

2538
01:40:36,790 --> 01:40:33,840
through the ancient times many most

2539
01:40:38,229 --> 01:40:36,800
actually of the more credible encounters

2540
01:40:41,030 --> 01:40:38,239
a lot of them are not credible but

2541
01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:41,040
the ones that are there's a lot of human

2542
01:40:45,590 --> 01:40:43,360
encounters that people are having

2543
01:40:46,629 --> 01:40:45,600
and uh but there are no accounts of

2544
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:46,639
grays

2545
01:40:50,629 --> 01:40:48,719
from 500 or a thousand or 2000 years ago

2546
01:40:53,350 --> 01:40:50,639
they're just they're not there

2547
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:53,360
in ditto with the other other species

2548
01:40:55,510 --> 01:40:54,000
and

2549
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:55,520
you do start getting those in the 20th

2550
01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:57,040
century and to me that makes perfect

2551
01:41:01,189 --> 01:40:58,159
sense

2552
01:41:01,990 --> 01:41:01,199
again it really comes down to the fact

2553
01:41:04,149 --> 01:41:02,000
that we went from

2554
01:41:05,430 --> 01:41:04,159
a long-term low-level monitoring

2555
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:05,440
operation

2556
01:41:09,510 --> 01:41:08,159
to something where our activities

2557
01:41:10,629 --> 01:41:09,520
brought the whole galactic neighborhood

2558
01:41:12,870 --> 01:41:10,639
in because they realized

2559
01:41:14,470 --> 01:41:12,880
okay something now big is happening on

2560
01:41:15,510 --> 01:41:14,480
earth we're going to go see what these

2561
01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:15,520
people are doing

2562
01:41:18,790 --> 01:41:16,960
and i i believe that that's what's

2563
01:41:22,629 --> 01:41:18,800
happened so you

2564
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:22,639
start getting genuinely like

2565
01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:25,920
large numbers of good ufo sightings

2566
01:41:30,070 --> 01:41:27,520
starting in the latter half of the 19th

2567
01:41:31,510 --> 01:41:30,080
century you know particularly after like

2568
01:41:34,709 --> 01:41:31,520
1870 1880

2569
01:41:36,709 --> 01:41:34,719
actually and that just picks up it's not

2570
01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:36,719
that there were none before that

2571
01:41:40,070 --> 01:41:38,800
but you get a lot more now and now part

2572
01:41:42,149 --> 01:41:40,080
of that is because

2573
01:41:43,189 --> 01:41:42,159
we developed an infrastructure where we

2574
01:41:45,030 --> 01:41:43,199
were able

2575
01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:45,040
to detect them more easily yes that's

2576
01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:47,199
all true but there's just so much more

2577
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:48,719
quantity i don't think you can

2578
01:41:52,709 --> 01:41:50,880
look at it any other way they've come

2579
01:41:55,430 --> 01:41:52,719
here in greater numbers

2580
01:41:56,870 --> 01:41:55,440
there's a big infrastructure behind them

2581
01:41:57,910 --> 01:41:56,880
and so i think we just brought in the

2582
01:42:01,109 --> 01:41:57,920
neighborhood

2583
01:42:02,950 --> 01:42:01,119
and that means you're bringing in

2584
01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:02,960
potentially different groups i don't

2585
01:42:05,910 --> 01:42:04,480
know if they're all under one unified

2586
01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:05,920
leadership or not

2587
01:42:09,270 --> 01:42:08,159
but they could be a variety of groups i

2588
01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:09,280
think there's at least a couple of

2589
01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:11,760
different factions involved

2590
01:42:16,870 --> 01:42:14,480
and it's interesting that all of them

2591
01:42:20,149 --> 01:42:16,880
are very clandestine

2592
01:42:21,750 --> 01:42:20,159
like they're very secret they're they're

2593
01:42:24,070 --> 01:42:21,760
every bit of secret as the human elite

2594
01:42:26,550 --> 01:42:24,080
that's covering them up

2595
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:26,560
and so uh well let me know also

2596
01:42:30,790 --> 01:42:28,080
something i try to explore yes

2597
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:30,800
and see and and here's the thing uh with

2598
01:42:35,270 --> 01:42:32,080
this book

2599
01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:35,280
is that uh a skeptic or physicist right

2600
01:42:39,189 --> 01:42:37,280
they're gonna go okay well okay but

2601
01:42:40,870 --> 01:42:39,199
we we still have to deal with the fermi

2602
01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:40,880
paradox you know where

2603
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:43,199
are there yes there must be lots of life

2604
01:42:48,470 --> 01:42:45,520
out there but there is no evidence of it

2605
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:48,480
and then you look at your research here

2606
01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:50,239
and the way it's presented

2607
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:53,520
and i always go back to uh those that

2608
01:42:58,390 --> 01:42:55,440
bring up the fermi paradox

2609
01:42:59,590 --> 01:42:58,400
i say look there's there's like millions

2610
01:43:03,350 --> 01:42:59,600
millions

2611
01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:03,360
of of cases out there and experiences

2612
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:07,280
of not only abduction but direct contact

2613
01:43:11,669 --> 01:43:08,880
and communication

2614
01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:11,679
eyewitness testimony it's all over the

2615
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:12,560
place so

2616
01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:15,360
they are here is that is that the

2617
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:16,719
counter

2618
01:43:21,910 --> 01:43:20,639
for the fermi paradox

2619
01:43:23,990 --> 01:43:21,920
yeah i hadn't really thought of it in

2620
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:24,000
that way but yes why not absolutely i

2621
01:43:26,550 --> 01:43:25,440
think that's that's quite a valid way to

2622
01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:26,560
look at it

2623
01:43:29,750 --> 01:43:29,280
one of the things that i i think no one

2624
01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:29,760
like

2625
01:43:33,350 --> 01:43:32,639
abs no one that i'm aware of is really

2626
01:43:35,590 --> 01:43:33,360
talked about

2627
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:35,600
is here's a reason why they may not be

2628
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:37,679
announcing themselves openly

2629
01:43:41,669 --> 01:43:40,080
so let's say a large number of the of

2630
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:41,679
excuse me large numbers of them arrive

2631
01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:43,679
sometime in the 20th century so like we

2632
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:46,239
all know like during world war ii there

2633
01:43:49,030 --> 01:43:47,760
were many sightings of what we call foo

2634
01:43:51,750 --> 01:43:49,040
fighters

2635
01:43:52,070 --> 01:43:51,760
so let's just say that that some of that

2636
01:43:54,790 --> 01:43:52,080
was

2637
01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:54,800
them so here they are they come to us in

2638
01:43:59,510 --> 01:43:56,400
the 20th century when

2639
01:44:00,950 --> 01:43:59,520
we've had two world wars we've got you

2640
01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:00,960
know in the world today there are

2641
01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:03,920
something like 200 allegedly sovereign

2642
01:44:06,870 --> 01:44:05,040
nations

2643
01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:06,880
of course most of them are dominated by

2644
01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:08,960
the united states and allies but

2645
01:44:12,070 --> 01:44:10,480
there are 200 groups you've got russia

2646
01:44:16,870 --> 01:44:12,080
you've got china

2647
01:44:19,830 --> 01:44:16,880
you've got warfare all over our planet

2648
01:44:21,590 --> 01:44:19,840
and all of this volatility like if they

2649
01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:21,600
were to come and openly announce

2650
01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:22,480
themselves

2651
01:44:26,470 --> 01:44:24,480
just ask yourself like who are they

2652
01:44:27,510 --> 01:44:26,480
going to talk to

2653
01:44:29,669 --> 01:44:27,520
are they going to go to the united

2654
01:44:31,189 --> 01:44:29,679
nations are they going to like uh

2655
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:31,199
land in some field in the middle of

2656
01:44:34,070 --> 01:44:32,880
nowhere well they've done that

2657
01:44:36,229 --> 01:44:34,080
but are they going to announce

2658
01:44:39,350 --> 01:44:36,239
themselves like

2659
01:44:42,310 --> 01:44:39,360
we're in a very fractured world

2660
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:42,320
there isn't a genuinely open unified

2661
01:44:45,030 --> 01:44:42,960
leadership

2662
01:44:46,790 --> 01:44:45,040
now there are there are you know the

2663
01:44:48,149 --> 01:44:46,800
bilderberg group and the world economic

2664
01:44:50,629 --> 01:44:48,159
forum guys and

2665
01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:50,639
there's the you know whatever black

2666
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:52,719
budget powers and private corporations

2667
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:54,960
that have dominant power over our world

2668
01:44:58,629 --> 01:44:56,719
and it's entirely possible by the way

2669
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:58,639
that there is clandestine communication

2670
01:45:03,109 --> 01:45:00,080
going on from those

2671
01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:03,119
groups i don't know that but i couldn't

2672
01:45:06,629 --> 01:45:04,080
rule it out

2673
01:45:07,830 --> 01:45:06,639
but the fact is that for any alien group

2674
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:07,840
that's coming here let's say that

2675
01:45:11,990 --> 01:45:09,760
they're new to us

2676
01:45:13,510 --> 01:45:12,000
like maybe that's the case maybe they've

2677
01:45:16,629 --> 01:45:13,520
just arrived

2678
01:45:17,109 --> 01:45:16,639
and could they actually communicate with

2679
01:45:18,550 --> 01:45:17,119
us

2680
01:45:20,950 --> 01:45:18,560
first of all is a really good question

2681
01:45:23,430 --> 01:45:20,960
it'd be like asking could we communicate

2682
01:45:25,669 --> 01:45:23,440
with a group of gorillas in the african

2683
01:45:28,470 --> 01:45:25,679
lowlands you know somewhere in africa

2684
01:45:30,070 --> 01:45:28,480
like we wouldn't be able to because they

2685
01:45:32,229 --> 01:45:30,080
operate on a different level and and it

2686
01:45:33,430 --> 01:45:32,239
could be that these beings

2687
01:45:35,510 --> 01:45:33,440
think differently than us have a

2688
01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:35,520
different psychology than us

2689
01:45:38,629 --> 01:45:37,600
they may not be even mammalian like they

2690
01:45:40,229 --> 01:45:38,639
may not they

2691
01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:40,239
i've speculated about this for a long

2692
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:41,920
time like they may not

2693
01:45:45,189 --> 01:45:43,760
something as simple as nursing at your

2694
01:45:47,030 --> 01:45:45,199
mother's breast

2695
01:45:48,709 --> 01:45:47,040
that's what mammals do that's what

2696
01:45:51,669 --> 01:45:48,719
creates psychological

2697
01:45:52,709 --> 01:45:51,679
need for like love and bonding and

2698
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:52,719
families like

2699
01:45:56,709 --> 01:45:54,960
we don't know that they have any of that

2700
01:45:59,350 --> 01:45:56,719
they may not work that way

2701
01:45:59,750 --> 01:45:59,360
and so it might be very difficult for

2702
01:46:01,669 --> 01:45:59,760
them

2703
01:46:03,270 --> 01:46:01,679
actually to have communication with us

2704
01:46:06,229 --> 01:46:03,280
so i mean that's just

2705
01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:06,239
one couple of reasons why they might not

2706
01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:07,840
just necessarily openly announce

2707
01:46:10,629 --> 01:46:09,280
themselves to us and work behind the

2708
01:46:13,669 --> 01:46:10,639
scenes

2709
01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:13,679
um it would be difficult and then of

2710
01:46:17,669 --> 01:46:14,400
course

2711
01:46:20,229 --> 01:46:17,679
if they are interested in

2712
01:46:21,350 --> 01:46:20,239
this planet as well as our species

2713
01:46:24,149 --> 01:46:21,360
because we have a

2714
01:46:25,750 --> 01:46:24,159
beautiful planet sure there's probably

2715
01:46:28,229 --> 01:46:25,760
billions of great planets out there

2716
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:28,239
but earth is an absolutely stunning

2717
01:46:33,189 --> 01:46:30,000
place and we've got a very unique

2718
01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:33,199
moon that probably offers

2719
01:46:37,750 --> 01:46:36,080
some protections and maybe certain value

2720
01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:37,760
to the quality of life on our planet we

2721
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:39,360
know that that does in fact

2722
01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:41,600
like there's there's intrinsically great

2723
01:46:44,709 --> 01:46:42,560
things about earth and

2724
01:46:46,550 --> 01:46:44,719
and maybe they don't want to screw up

2725
01:46:48,629 --> 01:46:46,560
earth maybe they don't want to come in

2726
01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:48,639
and invade openly with some armada

2727
01:46:52,709 --> 01:46:50,239
because that actually would destroy too

2728
01:46:54,310 --> 01:46:52,719
much of the planet so

2729
01:46:55,990 --> 01:46:54,320
if they want to influence if they want

2730
01:46:57,830 --> 01:46:56,000
to manipulate

2731
01:46:59,109 --> 01:46:57,840
they would want to do it covertly they

2732
01:47:02,310 --> 01:46:59,119
would want to do it

2733
01:47:04,070 --> 01:47:02,320
not in an open way because you know for

2734
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:04,080
all the great things that human beings

2735
01:47:08,229 --> 01:47:05,040
are and we

2736
01:47:10,550 --> 01:47:08,239
i love humanity like there's so much

2737
01:47:11,830 --> 01:47:10,560
genius and nobility about us but we're a

2738
01:47:14,550 --> 01:47:11,840
real problem

2739
01:47:15,990 --> 01:47:14,560
like we are violent we are selfish we

2740
01:47:17,590 --> 01:47:16,000
are egotistical we are

2741
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:17,600
unpredictable and volatile like all of

2742
01:47:23,669 --> 01:47:20,480
those things would make us difficult

2743
01:47:24,470 --> 01:47:23,679
very possibly for them to deal with now

2744
01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:24,480
of course

2745
01:47:27,510 --> 01:47:25,920
there's not going to be much of a choice

2746
01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:27,520
in the near future say another fifty

2747
01:47:31,350 --> 01:47:29,040
hundred years at the most

2748
01:47:33,430 --> 01:47:31,360
because we are as i keep saying we're

2749
01:47:34,149 --> 01:47:33,440
transforming our civilization and the

2750
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:34,159
very

2751
01:47:37,430 --> 01:47:36,560
nature of our species into something

2752
01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:37,440
totally different

2753
01:47:43,430 --> 01:47:41,040
and much start much more formidable

2754
01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:43,440
than we've ever been orders of magnitude

2755
01:47:49,590 --> 01:47:45,679
so right and when we have

2756
01:47:52,229 --> 01:47:49,600
uh millions and the the numbers

2757
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:52,239
you can't measure right of of contact of

2758
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:53,280
sightings and and

2759
01:47:56,870 --> 01:47:55,600
interaction right and then you take you

2760
01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:56,880
take it to the next level

2761
01:48:01,350 --> 01:48:00,480
of uh not you but you just tackle it in

2762
01:48:04,709 --> 01:48:01,360
the book

2763
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:04,719
of of abductions which even

2764
01:48:08,709 --> 01:48:06,400
those out there that may not know that

2765
01:48:11,750 --> 01:48:08,719
much about the ufo subject

2766
01:48:12,790 --> 01:48:11,760
now we're crossing the line into a whole

2767
01:48:16,310 --> 01:48:12,800
nother level

2768
01:48:18,149 --> 01:48:16,320
of acceptance to these experiences

2769
01:48:19,510 --> 01:48:18,159
but this is something that you tackled

2770
01:48:21,990 --> 01:48:19,520
pretty well in the book

2771
01:48:23,109 --> 01:48:22,000
thank you yeah well it's necessary of

2772
01:48:23,990 --> 01:48:23,119
course like if you're going to talk

2773
01:48:27,030 --> 01:48:24,000
about

2774
01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:27,040
these other beings in any deep way you

2775
01:48:30,310 --> 01:48:28,800
have to confront the phenomenon of

2776
01:48:32,870 --> 01:48:30,320
abductions

2777
01:48:35,669 --> 01:48:32,880
and this is a good place for me to just

2778
01:48:38,149 --> 01:48:35,679
mention like there's some very

2779
01:48:40,550 --> 01:48:38,159
uh there are some stories in this book

2780
01:48:42,709 --> 01:48:40,560
that have appeared nowhere else

2781
01:48:44,149 --> 01:48:42,719
uh several from individuals that i i

2782
01:48:47,189 --> 01:48:44,159
know fairly well

2783
01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:47,199
and who've um offered them to me two

2784
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:48,480
from my wife tracy

2785
01:48:52,950 --> 01:48:51,440
uh she was really generous in letting me

2786
01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:52,960
write about them

2787
01:48:56,790 --> 01:48:55,280
uh one in particular of hers is

2788
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:56,800
something that a few people have already

2789
01:48:59,189 --> 01:48:58,400
known about she has talked about it we

2790
01:49:02,310 --> 01:48:59,199
call it the

2791
01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:02,320
hooded being encounter and that is

2792
01:49:06,709 --> 01:49:04,960
that is a very interesting story indeed

2793
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:06,719
but she allowed me to really go into

2794
01:49:11,350 --> 01:49:08,480
even greater depth than

2795
01:49:12,550 --> 01:49:11,360
even she had gone into it in the past

2796
01:49:14,070 --> 01:49:12,560
and um

2797
01:49:15,589 --> 01:49:14,080
and then she had another experience

2798
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:15,599
which

2799
01:49:22,229 --> 01:49:19,840
is actually um interesting because

2800
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:22,239
it almost seemed dreamlike but she was

2801
01:49:26,310 --> 01:49:24,320
quite convinced it's not a dream and she

2802
01:49:28,070 --> 01:49:26,320
has very good reasons for thinking that

2803
01:49:30,709 --> 01:49:28,080
and that was an encounter which

2804
01:49:32,709 --> 01:49:30,719
with being that i interpret this is not

2805
01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:32,719
necessarily her but i interpret as a

2806
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:33,920
tall grey

2807
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:36,480
but maybe maybe a mantid as well but a

2808
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:37,440
very

2809
01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:40,560
uh a being that she

2810
01:49:45,669 --> 01:49:43,360
had and this is not unusual by the way a

2811
01:49:47,189 --> 01:49:45,679
being that she had a very deep emotional

2812
01:49:51,109 --> 01:49:47,199
bond with

2813
01:49:54,229 --> 01:49:51,119
a female a female being

2814
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:54,239
that was very tall and very wise and

2815
01:49:58,870 --> 01:49:56,159
very profound and

2816
01:49:59,589 --> 01:49:58,880
um and it affected tracy at a very deep

2817
01:50:03,350 --> 01:49:59,599
level

2818
01:50:04,790 --> 01:50:03,360
um so i i was very fortunate to be able

2819
01:50:06,390 --> 01:50:04,800
to include that in and

2820
01:50:07,990 --> 01:50:06,400
a number of individuals who came to me

2821
01:50:10,310 --> 01:50:08,000
with stories uh one and

2822
01:50:11,350 --> 01:50:10,320
one gentleman who had this just

2823
01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:11,360
astonishing

2824
01:50:16,070 --> 01:50:13,360
uh encounter with a reptilian type of a

2825
01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:16,080
being that came right to his bedroom and

2826
01:50:19,350 --> 01:50:17,679
this man was perfectly awake this was

2827
01:50:22,550 --> 01:50:19,360
not a dream experience

2828
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:22,560
and i i know him um

2829
01:50:26,229 --> 01:50:24,800
i have a lot of respect for him and

2830
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:26,239
there's not a reason in the world where

2831
01:50:28,870 --> 01:50:28,000
i why i would doubt any word that he

2832
01:50:30,629 --> 01:50:28,880
says

2833
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:30,639
um so there's actually some really

2834
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:32,080
interesting stories that

2835
01:50:35,109 --> 01:50:33,599
have not appeared anywhere else and i

2836
01:50:37,510 --> 01:50:35,119
was very lucky to have them

2837
01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:37,520
well what's the what's the what's your

2838
01:50:41,189 --> 01:50:38,480
hypothesis

2839
01:50:42,229 --> 01:50:41,199
right what's the agenda behind

2840
01:50:45,589 --> 01:50:42,239
abductions

2841
01:50:47,270 --> 01:50:45,599
some of them are some of them are uh

2842
01:50:49,830 --> 01:50:47,280
benevolent some of them aren't some of

2843
01:50:53,589 --> 01:50:49,840
them are pretty rough

2844
01:50:56,470 --> 01:50:53,599
there's two reasons that i explicitly

2845
01:50:58,629 --> 01:50:56,480
talk about in the book as to why

2846
01:51:00,310 --> 01:50:58,639
i think abductions are happening so one

2847
01:51:03,510 --> 01:51:00,320
is yes the creation of

2848
01:51:05,350 --> 01:51:03,520
a kind of a hybrid species uh human

2849
01:51:08,550 --> 01:51:05,360
alien hybrid species

2850
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:08,560
uh seemingly for purposes of

2851
01:51:12,390 --> 01:51:10,800
infiltration so what dave jacobs is

2852
01:51:15,109 --> 01:51:12,400
called the hubrids

2853
01:51:15,669 --> 01:51:15,119
you know human looking uh hybrid beings

2854
01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:15,679
they look

2855
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:19,280
human but they retain

2856
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:22,320
the core element of the gray slash

2857
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:22,960
mantid

2858
01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:25,280
uh genetics that's actually david's

2859
01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:26,800
theory is that the graves really work

2860
01:51:31,589 --> 01:51:29,040
and were created by the mantids he may

2861
01:51:34,149 --> 01:51:31,599
be right he may not be i don't know but

2862
01:51:34,709 --> 01:51:34,159
the fact is that they are human looking

2863
01:51:36,470 --> 01:51:34,719
with

2864
01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:36,480
intense telepathy or mind control

2865
01:51:39,189 --> 01:51:37,840
capabilities

2866
01:51:41,189 --> 01:51:39,199
that allow them to do things so that

2867
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:41,199
that's one theory now

2868
01:51:48,149 --> 01:51:45,040
um i don't know that that is

2869
01:51:49,189 --> 01:51:48,159
as david hypothesizes his theory is that

2870
01:51:50,870 --> 01:51:49,199
it's for

2871
01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:50,880
planetary takeover those are his two

2872
01:51:54,310 --> 01:51:52,480
words that he always uses

2873
01:51:55,910 --> 01:51:54,320
uh that they are essentially inserting

2874
01:51:56,470 --> 01:51:55,920
themselves into the human power

2875
01:51:58,070 --> 01:51:56,480
structure

2876
01:51:59,669 --> 01:51:58,080
to implement what is called the great

2877
01:52:03,669 --> 01:51:59,679
change

2878
01:52:05,430 --> 01:52:03,679
is that we're actually in it now and

2879
01:52:07,510 --> 01:52:05,440
they do talk about the great change

2880
01:52:09,589 --> 01:52:07,520
because they they know that it is

2881
01:52:11,270 --> 01:52:09,599
happening and humanity is

2882
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:11,280
we're doing it right now we're creating

2883
01:52:15,189 --> 01:52:12,880
this new stage of humanity

2884
01:52:16,790 --> 01:52:15,199
but they may want their own people in on

2885
01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:16,800
the in game

2886
01:52:21,589 --> 01:52:19,760
for their own purposes so hybrids is one

2887
01:52:23,189 --> 01:52:21,599
reason for abductions

2888
01:52:25,189 --> 01:52:23,199
and then i think the other reason when

2889
01:52:28,229 --> 01:52:25,199
you look at a lot of these reports

2890
01:52:31,510 --> 01:52:28,239
and instances of abduction

2891
01:52:33,669 --> 01:52:31,520
they don't all deal with reproduction

2892
01:52:34,870 --> 01:52:33,679
like a lot of them do but a lot of them

2893
01:52:38,149 --> 01:52:34,880
do not

2894
01:52:41,430 --> 01:52:38,159
uh and uh a lot of them i think

2895
01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:41,440
just deal with ongoing monitoring of our

2896
01:52:45,109 --> 01:52:42,960
minds and bodies

2897
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:45,119
so i think that there are there seem to

2898
01:52:47,990 --> 01:52:46,000
be let's just say

2899
01:52:49,189 --> 01:52:48,000
brain implants and they don't even have

2900
01:52:49,990 --> 01:52:49,199
to be brain implants they can be

2901
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:50,000
implants on

2902
01:52:53,669 --> 01:52:51,360
a part of your nervous system that can

2903
01:52:54,310 --> 01:52:53,679
monitor the brain even roger lear the

2904
01:52:56,790 --> 01:52:54,320
late dr

2905
01:52:58,310 --> 01:52:56,800
leer hypothesized this you have an

2906
01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:58,320
implant and a key part of the nervous

2907
01:53:01,350 --> 01:52:59,040
system

2908
01:53:03,189 --> 01:53:01,360
that can allow them to monitor your

2909
01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:03,199
thoughts or

2910
01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:05,199
your physiology or things like this so

2911
01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:06,719
it would be a tracking

2912
01:53:11,910 --> 01:53:10,480
program why do you think um

2913
01:53:13,669 --> 01:53:11,920
you talk about in the book but i want to

2914
01:53:17,030 --> 01:53:13,679
go a little bit deeper than this

2915
01:53:19,589 --> 01:53:17,040
um why would a

2916
01:53:20,870 --> 01:53:19,599
species that has the time to get here

2917
01:53:23,109 --> 01:53:20,880
right they've studied us

2918
01:53:24,229 --> 01:53:23,119
they've got all the time in the world um

2919
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:24,239
uh to

2920
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:27,440
appear in front of us as a mantid as a

2921
01:53:31,830 --> 01:53:28,480
reptilian

2922
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:31,840
as you know some crazy insect

2923
01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:34,960
looking giant ant and scare the crap out

2924
01:53:39,669 --> 01:53:36,480
of us

2925
01:53:43,270 --> 01:53:39,679
well a couple of reasons one is that

2926
01:53:44,950 --> 01:53:43,280
there are many cases where these beings

2927
01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:44,960
clearly have the ability to disguise

2928
01:53:48,229 --> 01:53:45,840
their appearance

2929
01:53:49,189 --> 01:53:48,239
right all right so that absolutely

2930
01:53:50,790 --> 01:53:49,199
happens

2931
01:53:52,830 --> 01:53:50,800
i mean there are cases where like gray

2932
01:53:55,350 --> 01:53:52,840
aliens are seen wearing like bizarre

2933
01:53:57,750 --> 01:53:55,360
clothing and that thing can just change

2934
01:53:59,750 --> 01:53:57,760
it's it's crazy but you get enough of

2935
01:54:03,750 --> 01:53:59,760
these stories you have to start thinking

2936
01:54:05,430 --> 01:54:03,760
this might actually be true um

2937
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:05,440
in terms of their appearance like i

2938
01:54:07,990 --> 01:54:06,880
don't know that they try to scare the

2939
01:54:09,589 --> 01:54:08,000
hell out of people one thing they

2940
01:54:11,109 --> 01:54:09,599
definitely are able to do is cognitive

2941
01:54:13,350 --> 01:54:11,119
and emotional manipulation

2942
01:54:15,669 --> 01:54:13,360
that's right and that that's absolutely

2943
01:54:16,950 --> 01:54:15,679
a given uh there are case after case and

2944
01:54:17,830 --> 01:54:16,960
i've got a number of these in the book

2945
01:54:20,709 --> 01:54:17,840
where

2946
01:54:22,709 --> 01:54:20,719
um someone is is about to approach a

2947
01:54:26,070 --> 01:54:22,719
state of total panic

2948
01:54:26,950 --> 01:54:26,080
and deep like like beyond anxiety and

2949
01:54:28,790 --> 01:54:26,960
then somehow

2950
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:28,800
a gray will come behind them and put

2951
01:54:32,709 --> 01:54:30,080
their hands over their head

2952
01:54:34,149 --> 01:54:32,719
and that panic goes away so they've

2953
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:34,159
they've got the ability so

2954
01:54:38,790 --> 01:54:36,800
in that sense their appearance isn't

2955
01:54:40,470 --> 01:54:38,800
such a big deal if they're worried about

2956
01:54:42,470 --> 01:54:40,480
freaking people out because they do have

2957
01:54:45,350 --> 01:54:42,480
the ability to

2958
01:54:46,470 --> 01:54:45,360
manage our emotions very effectively not

2959
01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:46,480
every time

2960
01:54:51,109 --> 01:54:49,360
it's not complete their control is not

2961
01:54:51,830 --> 01:54:51,119
complete their ability to manage our

2962
01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:51,840
memory

2963
01:54:55,910 --> 01:54:54,400
is not complete there are always people

2964
01:54:58,390 --> 01:54:55,920
who are able to fight that

2965
01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:58,400
sometimes successfully and and this is

2966
01:55:01,109 --> 01:55:00,400
why i believe you've got some cases

2967
01:55:02,950 --> 01:55:01,119
where

2968
01:55:04,390 --> 01:55:02,960
people don't require hypnotic regression

2969
01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:04,400
to remember things

2970
01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:06,400
there are enough abduction accounts

2971
01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:08,480
where someone has a conscious memory of

2972
01:55:12,229 --> 01:55:10,000
it at the time and they remember it

2973
01:55:13,189 --> 01:55:12,239
or most of it the next day that does

2974
01:55:15,990 --> 01:55:13,199
happen

2975
01:55:17,589 --> 01:55:16,000
so the the alien control over our

2976
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:17,599
cognitive capability

2977
01:55:21,109 --> 01:55:19,840
it's not a hundred percent it's very

2978
01:55:24,149 --> 01:55:21,119
strong though

2979
01:55:26,070 --> 01:55:24,159
it's very formidable

2980
01:55:27,189 --> 01:55:26,080
why they look the way they do that i i

2981
01:55:29,430 --> 01:55:27,199
don't know

2982
01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:29,440
um you know the only thing you could

2983
01:55:32,709 --> 01:55:31,040
hypothesize is that either they

2984
01:55:34,870 --> 01:55:32,719
naturally look like that or

2985
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:34,880
as i believe in the case of the short

2986
01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:35,840
grays

2987
01:55:39,990 --> 01:55:37,840
there's some level of genetic

2988
01:55:40,870 --> 01:55:40,000
manipulation artificial creation about

2989
01:55:44,790 --> 01:55:40,880
them

2990
01:55:46,709 --> 01:55:44,800
you know for example whereas tall grays

2991
01:55:48,470 --> 01:55:46,719
definitely come across to abductees with

2992
01:55:49,990 --> 01:55:48,480
one gender or another like you've got

2993
01:55:51,910 --> 01:55:50,000
you get tall graves who come across as

2994
01:55:53,350 --> 01:55:51,920
male or female

2995
01:55:54,790 --> 01:55:53,360
you don't get that with short grays i

2996
01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:54,800
don't know of any cases like the short

2997
01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:55,920
grays are

2998
01:56:00,149 --> 01:55:59,119
totally gender neutral and there's

2999
01:56:01,669 --> 01:56:00,159
i mean i don't even know if you could

3000
01:56:02,149 --> 01:56:01,679
tell the difference between a male tall

3001
01:56:03,910 --> 01:56:02,159
gray

3002
01:56:05,430 --> 01:56:03,920
and a female tall crate by looking at

3003
01:56:07,589 --> 01:56:05,440
them but they can

3004
01:56:09,109 --> 01:56:07,599
they somehow generate that vibe as it

3005
01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:09,119
were to abductees

3006
01:56:15,189 --> 01:56:10,960
but the short grays don't seem to do

3007
01:56:17,669 --> 01:56:15,199
that they seem to be totally neutral and

3008
01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:17,679
and really if you want a worker bee

3009
01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:19,360
population like that why would you give

3010
01:56:23,990 --> 01:56:21,360
them the ultimate distraction of sex

3011
01:56:25,589 --> 01:56:24,000
organs i mean you know and ego and

3012
01:56:27,669 --> 01:56:25,599
things like that like you wouldn't

3013
01:56:29,109 --> 01:56:27,679
you want them for a purpose their job is

3014
01:56:34,629 --> 01:56:29,119
to

3015
01:56:36,149 --> 01:56:34,639
letting them have sex with each other is

3016
01:56:37,109 --> 01:56:36,159
probably just a distraction like why

3017
01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:37,119
bother

3018
01:56:43,030 --> 01:56:40,560
well i look at it this is this is uh

3019
01:56:45,030 --> 01:56:43,040
this is it's a little outside of the box

3020
01:56:47,669 --> 01:56:45,040
but look at it this way

3021
01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:47,679
you have cro-magnon and neanderthal

3022
01:56:51,589 --> 01:56:48,560
right

3023
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:51,599
and then you have us smooth we are we

3024
01:56:55,189 --> 01:56:52,639
are cro-magnon

3025
01:56:56,149 --> 01:56:55,199
uh well no no no we don't look anything

3026
01:56:57,910 --> 01:56:56,159
like a chrome

3027
01:57:00,310 --> 01:56:57,920
what i'm saying is this we are the

3028
01:57:00,870 --> 01:57:00,320
cro-magnons are us they were homo sapien

3029
01:57:04,149 --> 01:57:00,880
sapiens

3030
01:57:04,790 --> 01:57:04,159
okay stick stick to that stick to stick

3031
01:57:08,310 --> 01:57:04,800
to that

3032
01:57:11,510 --> 01:57:08,320
richard but what i am saying is we

3033
01:57:14,709 --> 01:57:11,520
are unique looking and

3034
01:57:18,229 --> 01:57:14,719
we will continue to evolve

3035
01:57:22,070 --> 01:57:18,239
and 10 000 years from now 20 000

3036
01:57:25,109 --> 01:57:22,080
years from now we may evolve into

3037
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:25,119
a tall gray right we we may

3038
01:57:28,950 --> 01:57:27,520
make that change and maybe that's just

3039
01:57:30,629 --> 01:57:28,960
what we're seeing

3040
01:57:32,950 --> 01:57:30,639
when we see it one of the best arguments

3041
01:57:33,990 --> 01:57:32,960
for time travel ufos is exactly what

3042
01:57:36,830 --> 01:57:34,000
you've just said like

3043
01:57:39,589 --> 01:57:36,840
yeah it isn't that hard for us to

3044
01:57:40,709 --> 01:57:39,599
envision future genetic manipulation and

3045
01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:40,719
we end up looking

3046
01:57:45,350 --> 01:57:43,440
maybe like that yeah yes it's possible

3047
01:57:48,550 --> 01:57:45,360
yeah yeah yeah the end of

3048
01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:48,560
if you go to um i hate

3049
01:57:53,589 --> 01:57:52,400
uh doing the hollywood uh uh analogy but

3050
01:57:55,430 --> 01:57:53,599
i'm gonna do it here

3051
01:57:56,870 --> 01:57:55,440
if you go to the end of artificial

3052
01:57:59,430 --> 01:57:56,880
intelligence ai

3053
01:58:00,550 --> 01:57:59,440
right by steven spielberg that last

3054
01:58:02,950 --> 01:58:00,560
scene

3055
01:58:03,990 --> 01:58:02,960
where e.t is visiting us and

3056
01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:04,000
investigating

3057
01:58:08,470 --> 01:58:06,719
and they make the contact but that's

3058
01:58:11,350 --> 01:58:08,480
that's a pure

3059
01:58:14,229 --> 01:58:11,360
tall gray light being right that has

3060
01:58:17,669 --> 01:58:14,239
just evolved into that no more meat sack

3061
01:58:19,109 --> 01:58:17,679
right probably no more food so funny i

3062
01:58:21,189 --> 01:58:19,119
almost watched that movie last night i

3063
01:58:23,109 --> 01:58:21,199
was flipping for sci-fi and um

3064
01:58:24,310 --> 01:58:23,119
nearly nearly went there it's always a

3065
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:24,320
good go-to

3066
01:58:27,270 --> 01:58:25,599
that's always a good i ended up watching

3067
01:58:28,310 --> 01:58:27,280
the first blade runner which was which

3068
01:58:30,229 --> 01:58:28,320
was not bad

3069
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you know what i we do that a few times a

3070
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year

3071
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there's things that you have to just go

3072
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and just refresh and

3073
01:58:40,629 --> 01:58:38,960
and and you always catch something

3074
01:58:43,350 --> 01:58:40,639
you always catch everything like man

3075
01:58:46,470 --> 01:58:43,360
wait i've seen this 50 times

3076
01:58:47,910 --> 01:58:46,480
did you know that was in there i'm gonna

3077
01:58:49,750 --> 01:58:47,920
you're gonna laugh i actually have not

3078
01:58:51,750 --> 01:58:49,760
seen spielberg's artificial intelligence

3079
01:58:55,750 --> 01:58:51,760
i almost boycotted it i don't know why

3080
01:58:57,669 --> 01:58:55,760
but i i well let me tell you why

3081
01:58:59,990 --> 01:58:57,679
i you just cut off there i think you hit

3082
01:59:03,189 --> 01:59:00,000
the mute button

3083
01:59:05,669 --> 01:59:03,199
oh did we lose oh no but you froze okay

3084
01:59:06,310 --> 01:59:05,679
did i freeze no we got you now you're

3085
01:59:08,950 --> 01:59:06,320
frozen

3086
01:59:09,669 --> 01:59:08,960
i'm looking at you yeah but okay muted

3087
01:59:11,589 --> 01:59:09,679
it was just

3088
01:59:13,510 --> 01:59:11,599
we had a little glitch yeah i'm looking

3089
01:59:15,830 --> 01:59:13,520
here i'm solid so that's uh

3090
01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:15,840
that's the rochester i'm sure it's my

3091
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fault yes i'm going to take the hit on

3092
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this

3093
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of course of course um but the thing is

3094
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about a.i and you've got to prepare

3095
01:59:28,070 --> 01:59:25,440
yourself for this

3096
01:59:28,870 --> 01:59:28,080
the the first 10 minutes of the movie i

3097
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almost

3098
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need to fast forward because there is a

3099
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scene

3100
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in the woods with mom

3101
01:59:40,470 --> 01:59:38,480
you just remember that are you tonight

3102
01:59:42,310 --> 01:59:40,480
after the show you and tracy

3103
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that's it pull up the blankie get some

3104
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popcorn watch it

3105
01:59:47,830 --> 01:59:46,080
i'm gonna go check it out yeah watch ai

3106
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and just remember that first 10 minutes

3107
01:59:52,310 --> 01:59:50,080
and you're going to go to church

3108
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you were right man next time around i'm

3109
01:59:55,270 --> 01:59:53,520
going to fast forward

3110
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let's take our break right here this is

3111
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fade to black our guest tonight

3112
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richard bleepin dolan got a lot more to

3113
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3188
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3189
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3190
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3191
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across the floor

3192
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3227
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you wanna know a secret i love

3228
02:04:53,189 --> 02:04:51,280
ponies i really love ponies i'm serious

3229
02:04:54,870 --> 02:04:53,199
i couldn't stay sane without pulling

3230
02:04:58,069 --> 02:04:54,880
instabrush

3231
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3232
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that pony

3233
02:05:07,990 --> 02:05:05,589
this is fade to black with jimmy church

3234
02:05:23,910 --> 02:05:08,000
on the game changer radio network

3235
02:05:27,430 --> 02:05:25,430
welcome back paid to black i'm your host

3236
02:05:31,350 --> 02:05:27,440
jimmy church tonight richard

3237
02:05:33,830 --> 02:05:31,360
dolan one segment left one segment left

3238
02:05:36,229 --> 02:05:33,840
the new book is the alien agendas and

3239
02:05:38,470 --> 02:05:36,239
that is plural the links for the book

3240
02:05:40,069 --> 02:05:38,480
are over at jimmychurchradio.com you can

3241
02:05:41,030 --> 02:05:40,079
go and do that and richard told us

3242
02:05:42,550 --> 02:05:41,040
earlier in the show he's got an

3243
02:05:44,470 --> 02:05:42,560
audiobook coming out

3244
02:05:45,990 --> 02:05:44,480
and i think he wanted to say that i was

3245
02:05:47,990 --> 02:05:46,000
doing the audiobook and

3246
02:05:49,750 --> 02:05:48,000
and thank you for the offer on on that

3247
02:05:52,069 --> 02:05:49,760
research but but uh

3248
02:05:53,430 --> 02:05:52,079
uh i appreciate that but yeah audiobooks

3249
02:05:56,790 --> 02:05:53,440
are the way to go man

3250
02:06:00,149 --> 02:05:56,800
uh uh i um may i mention

3251
02:06:03,350 --> 02:06:00,159
another thing yes relating to audiobooks

3252
02:06:06,390 --> 02:06:03,360
um ufos for the 21st century mind now

3253
02:06:08,390 --> 02:06:06,400
exists in a spanish translation

3254
02:06:11,750 --> 02:06:08,400
and we are just about ready with the

3255
02:06:14,790 --> 02:06:11,760
spanish audio of that book

3256
02:06:16,790 --> 02:06:14,800
yeah man international

3257
02:06:19,270 --> 02:06:16,800
we're trying to work the system here

3258
02:06:21,910 --> 02:06:19,280
international metropolitan

3259
02:06:23,430 --> 02:06:21,920
we are we uh this is really tracy's

3260
02:06:26,629 --> 02:06:23,440
organization thank god but

3261
02:06:28,550 --> 02:06:26,639
we're getting audio books done for um

3262
02:06:30,629 --> 02:06:28,560
most or all of my other books as well so

3263
02:06:32,629 --> 02:06:30,639
we're we have an audio reader

3264
02:06:34,390 --> 02:06:32,639
for ufos national security state volumes

3265
02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:34,400
one and two we're definitely having

3266
02:06:38,870 --> 02:06:35,280
those

3267
02:06:41,830 --> 02:06:38,880
uh ready for audiobook and uh

3268
02:06:43,189 --> 02:06:41,840
my uh shorter booklets as well are going

3269
02:06:44,229 --> 02:06:43,199
to be for audio i can't do after

3270
02:06:45,030 --> 02:06:44,239
disclosure because that's another

3271
02:06:46,390 --> 02:06:45,040
publisher

3272
02:06:48,229 --> 02:06:46,400
and they've already got that as an audio

3273
02:06:49,030 --> 02:06:48,239
book yeah but i have i have the rights

3274
02:06:52,470 --> 02:06:49,040
to the other ones

3275
02:06:54,229 --> 02:06:52,480
yeah i uh when it comes to hard science

3276
02:06:57,510 --> 02:06:54,239
and physics and things

3277
02:06:59,910 --> 02:06:57,520
audio books man i drive rita crazy

3278
02:07:01,189 --> 02:06:59,920
you know sixteen yeah many people yeah

3279
02:07:03,910 --> 02:07:01,199
you know i it's uh

3280
02:07:04,470 --> 02:07:03,920
lots of pardon me lots of people like

3281
02:07:06,390 --> 02:07:04,480
audio

3282
02:07:07,589 --> 02:07:06,400
and it's you know you're working around

3283
02:07:09,189 --> 02:07:07,599
the house you wanna hear something if

3284
02:07:10,790 --> 02:07:09,199
you're driving and so forth not everyone

3285
02:07:12,870 --> 02:07:10,800
just wants to be reading

3286
02:07:14,390 --> 02:07:12,880
words on a page it took me a long time

3287
02:07:15,830 --> 02:07:14,400
to kind of get on to that like to

3288
02:07:18,069 --> 02:07:15,840
realize

3289
02:07:19,830 --> 02:07:18,079
um that that's actually a very big

3290
02:07:21,830 --> 02:07:19,840
desire that many people have so we're

3291
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:21,840
we are working on all of that yeah at

3292
02:07:26,550 --> 02:07:23,760
night heading to bed

3293
02:07:27,270 --> 02:07:26,560
audiobook just right right through

3294
02:07:30,229 --> 02:07:27,280
tonight

3295
02:07:30,870 --> 02:07:30,239
um now okay here's the deal let's let's

3296
02:07:35,350 --> 02:07:30,880
actually

3297
02:07:39,510 --> 02:07:35,360
uh go here which is this um

3298
02:07:40,950 --> 02:07:39,520
you in your conclusion you discuss

3299
02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:40,960
some of the things that you've talked a

3300
02:07:44,629 --> 02:07:42,880
lot about in depth uh which is

3301
02:07:47,430 --> 02:07:44,639
disclosure and

3302
02:07:49,189 --> 02:07:47,440
and what does washington know what is

3303
02:07:50,709 --> 02:07:49,199
the military-industrial conflict with

3304
02:07:53,030 --> 02:07:50,719
the department of defense

3305
02:07:53,750 --> 02:07:53,040
and you address it here but let me ask

3306
02:07:57,350 --> 02:07:53,760
you this

3307
02:07:59,669 --> 02:07:57,360
in totality with what this book covers

3308
02:08:00,470 --> 02:07:59,679
which is uh you know abductions

3309
02:08:03,669 --> 02:08:00,480
interaction

3310
02:08:04,229 --> 02:08:03,679
contact uh different species and so

3311
02:08:07,910 --> 02:08:04,239
forth

3312
02:08:09,109 --> 02:08:07,920
how much of that how much of that do you

3313
02:08:12,229 --> 02:08:09,119
think

3314
02:08:16,470 --> 02:08:14,390
so yeah by government i i guess we can

3315
02:08:19,270 --> 02:08:16,480
just agree that we're talking about

3316
02:08:20,069 --> 02:08:19,280
whatever elite group of individuals that

3317
02:08:23,750 --> 02:08:20,079
that is

3318
02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:23,760
the machine that's got yeah so right

3319
02:08:30,310 --> 02:08:27,920
um yeah i do talk about this and

3320
02:08:31,910 --> 02:08:30,320
and the fact is i don't think we can be

3321
02:08:33,910 --> 02:08:31,920
sure that they've got all the goods on

3322
02:08:37,189 --> 02:08:33,920
this either

3323
02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:37,199
uh you know i mean you listen to people

3324
02:08:41,109 --> 02:08:39,520
talking about this today like um

3325
02:08:43,830 --> 02:08:41,119
i'm a big fan of listening to the

3326
02:08:47,990 --> 02:08:43,840
remarks of dr eric davis for example

3327
02:08:49,750 --> 02:08:48,000
who of many people out there has got

3328
02:08:52,069 --> 02:08:49,760
lots of classified clearances and he

3329
02:08:55,109 --> 02:08:52,079
clearly knows a lot about

3330
02:08:57,030 --> 02:08:55,119
this phenomenon it's very obvious

3331
02:08:59,189 --> 02:08:57,040
and you know i listen to what he says

3332
02:09:02,069 --> 02:08:59,199
and his attitude is look

3333
02:09:03,510 --> 02:09:02,079
we are taking the babiest of baby steps

3334
02:09:06,790 --> 02:09:03,520
in trying to understand

3335
02:09:08,550 --> 02:09:06,800
how to do what they do and he's not the

3336
02:09:10,709 --> 02:09:08,560
only one who says this i think

3337
02:09:11,669 --> 02:09:10,719
what we're really looking at is a point

3338
02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:11,679
where

3339
02:09:18,870 --> 02:09:15,520
their science remains

3340
02:09:21,910 --> 02:09:18,880
vastly beyond what we are able to

3341
02:09:22,229 --> 02:09:21,920
to replicate and to do we can try our

3342
02:09:25,990 --> 02:09:22,239
own

3343
02:09:27,350 --> 02:09:26,000
versions of their technology but we

3344
02:09:29,030 --> 02:09:27,360
we're doing it with our science and our

3345
02:09:30,790 --> 02:09:29,040
materials and and we really can't

3346
02:09:34,149 --> 02:09:30,800
duplicate it

3347
02:09:36,390 --> 02:09:34,159
in terms of the grand strategy of these

3348
02:09:39,589 --> 02:09:36,400
beings

3349
02:09:42,790 --> 02:09:39,599
it is not clear to me that even the

3350
02:09:45,669 --> 02:09:42,800
highest elites of our society

3351
02:09:46,550 --> 02:09:45,679
know all of what's going on now but let

3352
02:09:49,589 --> 02:09:46,560
me just say this

3353
02:09:54,870 --> 02:09:53,189
if if you want to

3354
02:09:56,709 --> 02:09:54,880
if we were to argue that there's

3355
02:10:00,229 --> 02:09:56,719
infiltration going on

3356
02:10:02,790 --> 02:10:00,239
like that's an easy argument at least

3357
02:10:05,030 --> 02:10:02,800
on the phase of it to make like would it

3358
02:10:07,669 --> 02:10:05,040
be difficult for them

3359
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:07,679
and even if they don't have their own

3360
02:10:12,149 --> 02:10:08,400
hubris

3361
02:10:13,350 --> 02:10:12,159
structure would it be difficult for them

3362
02:10:16,149 --> 02:10:13,360
to control

3363
02:10:17,109 --> 02:10:16,159
any number of the human power elite for

3364
02:10:19,030 --> 02:10:17,119
their own purposes

3365
02:10:21,189 --> 02:10:19,040
i don't think it'd be hard at all

3366
02:10:24,310 --> 02:10:21,199
whether by blackmail or persuasion

3367
02:10:25,030 --> 02:10:24,320
or just some form of control or threats

3368
02:10:28,149 --> 02:10:25,040
or fear

3369
02:10:31,189 --> 02:10:28,159
like that wouldn't be difficult if one

3370
02:10:34,149 --> 02:10:31,199
of those groups wanted to do that

3371
02:10:35,430 --> 02:10:34,159
and i guess what i'm i'm thinking is

3372
02:10:37,990 --> 02:10:35,440
that there probably

3373
02:10:38,870 --> 02:10:38,000
are some individuals in our power

3374
02:10:41,669 --> 02:10:38,880
structure who

3375
02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:41,679
who do know who probably do know a lot

3376
02:10:46,629 --> 02:10:43,840
and then the question is

3377
02:10:47,830 --> 02:10:46,639
whose side are they on are they on the

3378
02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:47,840
side of humanity

3379
02:10:53,910 --> 02:10:50,880
or are they like uh you know

3380
02:10:55,270 --> 02:10:53,920
native rulers of uh ba of primitive let

3381
02:10:57,030 --> 02:10:55,280
me say primitive societies

3382
02:10:58,790 --> 02:10:57,040
encountering the europeans and selling

3383
02:11:00,390 --> 02:10:58,800
their own people out that's right that's

3384
02:11:02,950 --> 02:11:00,400
right like is that is that

3385
02:11:03,589 --> 02:11:02,960
they got to have a leg up on things i'm

3386
02:11:05,430 --> 02:11:03,599
sorry you go

3387
02:11:06,629 --> 02:11:05,440
they have to have a leg up on iran right

3388
02:11:09,270 --> 02:11:06,639
you got to have a leg up on

3389
02:11:10,709 --> 02:11:09,280
russia we've got to we've got to fill

3390
02:11:13,189 --> 02:11:10,719
the missile gap

3391
02:11:16,709 --> 02:11:13,199
we we've this is technology that there's

3392
02:11:18,310 --> 02:11:16,719
always that angle that is in play

3393
02:11:21,189 --> 02:11:18,320
that's what happened when the the the

3394
02:11:22,950 --> 02:11:21,199
conquistadors met with the aztecs

3395
02:11:24,310 --> 02:11:22,960
the aztecs crumbled partly because they

3396
02:11:26,790 --> 02:11:24,320
were hated

3397
02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:26,800
by their rival groups in uh in the area

3398
02:11:30,069 --> 02:11:27,760
of mexico

3399
02:11:32,149 --> 02:11:30,079
and there's you always get these

3400
02:11:34,229 --> 02:11:32,159
rivalries and and one group willing to

3401
02:11:37,270 --> 02:11:34,239
sell out another group and so on and

3402
02:11:39,270 --> 02:11:37,280
um i think why would that be so

3403
02:11:40,709 --> 02:11:39,280
difficult to imagine that we do it again

3404
02:11:42,390 --> 02:11:40,719
here

3405
02:11:44,390 --> 02:11:42,400
the fact is that i don't i can't say

3406
02:11:47,030 --> 02:11:44,400
that i know

3407
02:11:48,470 --> 02:11:47,040
uh what because i'm not in the club so i

3408
02:11:49,750 --> 02:11:48,480
don't i don't get invited to the

3409
02:11:51,510 --> 02:11:49,760
bilderberg meetings i don't know what

3410
02:11:53,990 --> 02:11:51,520
they have to say about this

3411
02:11:55,109 --> 02:11:54,000
i can speculate that there's probably

3412
02:11:57,430 --> 02:11:55,119
some

3413
02:11:58,870 --> 02:11:57,440
people who have a lot of knowledge and

3414
02:11:59,990 --> 02:11:58,880
who they're working for is a really good

3415
02:12:01,669 --> 02:12:00,000
question to ask i mean

3416
02:12:03,589 --> 02:12:01,679
even if you take aliens out of the whole

3417
02:12:06,149 --> 02:12:03,599
equation and you look at the

3418
02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:06,159
elite dominant players of our

3419
02:12:08,790 --> 02:12:07,520
civilization

3420
02:12:10,310 --> 02:12:08,800
i don't think it'd be easy to say that

3421
02:12:12,629 --> 02:12:10,320
they're working for the mass of humanity

3422
02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:12,639
they clearly are not

3423
02:12:17,430 --> 02:12:15,280
like let's just put this out there the

3424
02:12:18,550 --> 02:12:17,440
people who are running global policy

3425
02:12:21,750 --> 02:12:18,560
right now

3426
02:12:23,750 --> 02:12:21,760
don't give a rat's ass about the fate of

3427
02:12:25,030 --> 02:12:23,760
the mass of humanity they don't care

3428
02:12:27,830 --> 02:12:25,040
about that

3429
02:12:29,510 --> 02:12:27,840
they don't care they are about control

3430
02:12:31,910 --> 02:12:29,520
and creating a new system

3431
02:12:33,270 --> 02:12:31,920
and benefiting from it and so i don't

3432
02:12:35,669 --> 02:12:33,280
think it's all that much of a stretch to

3433
02:12:37,589 --> 02:12:35,679
see that you get you bring these other

3434
02:12:38,709 --> 02:12:37,599
extraterrestrials or these other beings

3435
02:12:40,870 --> 02:12:38,719
in

3436
02:12:42,149 --> 02:12:40,880
and they may have their own agenda the

3437
02:12:43,030 --> 02:12:42,159
one thing that i do wonder about in

3438
02:12:44,870 --> 02:12:43,040
terms of

3439
02:12:46,069 --> 02:12:44,880
various alien agendas because i guess

3440
02:12:48,470 --> 02:12:46,079
you've pointed out

3441
02:12:49,750 --> 02:12:48,480
there's plural in that it's not agenda

3442
02:12:52,790 --> 02:12:49,760
um

3443
02:12:55,109 --> 02:12:52,800
like i do wonder if there is a group

3444
02:12:56,229 --> 02:12:55,119
that is trying to look out for us what

3445
02:12:58,950 --> 02:12:56,239
about those

3446
02:13:01,030 --> 02:12:58,960
beings that may have been monitoring us

3447
02:13:04,310 --> 02:13:01,040
for all these thousands of years

3448
02:13:05,830 --> 02:13:04,320
do they look at us as you know

3449
02:13:07,350 --> 02:13:05,840
where their racket where their

3450
02:13:09,109 --> 02:13:07,360
protection as charles

3451
02:13:10,470 --> 02:13:09,119
fort wrote a hundred years ago i think

3452
02:13:13,910 --> 02:13:10,480
we're property

3453
02:13:16,229 --> 02:13:13,920
is that the case and do they feel

3454
02:13:17,750 --> 02:13:16,239
proprietary over us and are they having

3455
02:13:19,750 --> 02:13:17,760
a struggle with these other

3456
02:13:22,069 --> 02:13:19,760
groups that may be here now i mean this

3457
02:13:24,390 --> 02:13:22,079
is all speculation but

3458
02:13:25,350 --> 02:13:24,400
i don't see that as outrageous at least

3459
02:13:27,270 --> 02:13:25,360
to think about

3460
02:13:28,390 --> 02:13:27,280
that there may be something behind the

3461
02:13:29,910 --> 02:13:28,400
scenes

3462
02:13:33,109 --> 02:13:29,920
now why it's not out in the open for all

3463
02:13:35,830 --> 02:13:33,119
of us to see that's a good question

3464
02:13:37,430 --> 02:13:35,840
even after you after writing i'm so

3465
02:13:40,870 --> 02:13:37,440
sorry

3466
02:13:44,310 --> 02:13:40,880
hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy right

3467
02:13:46,550 --> 02:13:44,320
the end of the movie earth right

3468
02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:46,560
it's like well we got to build a highway

3469
02:13:52,310 --> 02:13:48,000
right

3470
02:13:53,990 --> 02:13:52,320
deal we're going to be

3471
02:13:55,750 --> 02:13:54,000
right they come in for like a bulldozing

3472
02:13:58,149 --> 02:13:55,760
project and earth has got to be

3473
02:13:59,430 --> 02:13:58,159
and they they you know earth is uh going

3474
02:14:02,550 --> 02:13:59,440
away in eight minutes

3475
02:14:04,950 --> 02:14:02,560
you know and so uh uh but we're going to

3476
02:14:06,470 --> 02:14:04,960
build a duplicate earth over here don't

3477
02:14:09,510 --> 02:14:06,480
you worry about it but

3478
02:14:13,030 --> 02:14:09,520
but this version is just in the way we

3479
02:14:15,750 --> 02:14:13,040
do it all the time

3480
02:14:17,910 --> 02:14:15,760
yeah totally but we have to kind of look

3481
02:14:21,669 --> 02:14:17,920
at it that way and i'm okay

3482
02:14:24,950 --> 02:14:21,679
with it because and i'll tell you why

3483
02:14:26,790 --> 02:14:24,960
um there is no way

3484
02:14:28,149 --> 02:14:26,800
that any of us actually know what's

3485
02:14:32,069 --> 02:14:28,159
going on

3486
02:14:34,390 --> 02:14:32,079
right and when we look at the uh the

3487
02:14:35,109 --> 02:14:34,400
michio kaku said it so many times right

3488
02:14:37,109 --> 02:14:35,119
that we're just

3489
02:14:38,229 --> 02:14:37,119
ants on the ground we're not teaching

3490
02:14:40,629 --> 02:14:38,239
ants how to drive

3491
02:14:41,589 --> 02:14:40,639
cars right we're not teaching ants how

3492
02:14:44,069 --> 02:14:41,599
to build an

3493
02:14:46,550 --> 02:14:44,079
internet we're not concerned about the

3494
02:14:49,270 --> 02:14:46,560
survival of ant colonies

3495
02:14:52,390 --> 02:14:49,280
right now even though that sounds very

3496
02:14:55,109 --> 02:14:52,400
simplistic on the surface

3497
02:14:56,310 --> 02:14:55,119
wait wait a minute here there's nothing

3498
02:14:58,950 --> 02:14:56,320
wrong with that because

3499
02:14:59,830 --> 02:14:58,960
we do the same thing when we go into

3500
02:15:03,910 --> 02:14:59,840
jungles

3501
02:15:04,870 --> 02:15:03,920
and we abduct right some new species and

3502
02:15:07,990 --> 02:15:04,880
pry it away

3503
02:15:10,149 --> 02:15:08,000
much worse yes we're we're

3504
02:15:11,669 --> 02:15:10,159
much worse i mean we're actually

3505
02:15:13,350 --> 02:15:11,679
sadistic

3506
02:15:14,870 --> 02:15:13,360
there are there are no other species on

3507
02:15:16,550 --> 02:15:14,880
this planet that

3508
02:15:18,069 --> 02:15:16,560
murder their own i mean maybe

3509
02:15:18,950 --> 02:15:18,079
chimpanzees will do that sometimes but

3510
02:15:21,350 --> 02:15:18,960
we actually

3511
02:15:22,069 --> 02:15:21,360
we're really into it and we're sadistic

3512
02:15:25,270 --> 02:15:22,079
about it

3513
02:15:28,790 --> 02:15:25,280
and we torture and we steal

3514
02:15:32,550 --> 02:15:28,800
and we uh enslave and like human be

3515
02:15:35,589 --> 02:15:32,560
and we destroy like we just destroy

3516
02:15:36,550 --> 02:15:35,599
like there's no other species on this

3517
02:15:39,589 --> 02:15:36,560
planet that does

3518
02:15:41,109 --> 02:15:39,599
anything like that that we do and so

3519
02:15:42,470 --> 02:15:41,119
i don't know about these other beings

3520
02:15:44,149 --> 02:15:42,480
that are here from elsewhere maybe

3521
02:15:45,990 --> 02:15:44,159
they're just as sadistic

3522
02:15:48,069 --> 02:15:46,000
but i haven't seen the evidence that

3523
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:48,079
they're as sadistic as we are

3524
02:15:51,430 --> 02:15:50,560
no and and and and unpleasant but

3525
02:15:54,790 --> 02:15:51,440
they're not sadistic

3526
02:15:56,870 --> 02:15:54,800
you got the best point ever um uh cattle

3527
02:15:57,669 --> 02:15:56,880
mutilations right and and horses and

3528
02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:57,679
things

3529
02:16:01,109 --> 02:16:00,639
and yeah well now there's possibility

3530
02:16:02,830 --> 02:16:01,119
that they

3531
02:16:05,189 --> 02:16:02,840
you know they are sadistic in that

3532
02:16:08,470 --> 02:16:05,199
regard well my point is

3533
02:16:11,589 --> 02:16:08,480
we're upset about that how can aliens

3534
02:16:14,310 --> 02:16:11,599
do that cut out his rectum

3535
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:14,320
what laser cut the teeth out why would

3536
02:16:17,189 --> 02:16:14,800
they do

3537
02:16:18,550 --> 02:16:17,199
what what are you talking about we do

3538
02:16:21,990 --> 02:16:18,560
that all day long

3539
02:16:25,990 --> 02:16:24,470
absolutely and and and much much worse

3540
02:16:29,510 --> 02:16:26,000
yes and and much worse

3541
02:16:31,030 --> 02:16:29,520
now uh before uh we do run out of time

3542
02:16:33,910 --> 02:16:31,040
i'm looking at the clock

3543
02:16:35,830 --> 02:16:33,920
um just when things might have seemed

3544
02:16:37,669 --> 02:16:35,840
like they were getting a little stagnant

3545
02:16:41,190 --> 02:16:37,679
in the ufo community

3546
02:16:44,309 --> 02:16:41,200
uh we got obama right goes back on

3547
02:16:45,110 --> 02:16:44,319
uh stephen colbert and and whips all of

3548
02:16:48,309 --> 02:16:45,120
this stuff out

3549
02:16:49,349 --> 02:16:48,319
and throws everything back out in into

3550
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:49,359
the public once

3551
02:16:51,990 --> 02:16:50,960
right yeah he just made a recent

3552
02:16:53,030 --> 02:16:52,000
statement about this it was quite

3553
02:16:54,469 --> 02:16:53,040
interesting wasn't it

3554
02:16:56,309 --> 02:16:54,479
yeah did you see it have you talked

3555
02:16:59,190 --> 02:16:56,319
about this before i just did

3556
02:17:01,190 --> 02:16:59,200
uh tonight uh did you see the clips this

3557
02:17:02,629 --> 02:17:01,200
happened on monday

3558
02:17:04,469 --> 02:17:02,639
yeah well i missed the very beginning of

3559
02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:04,479
your show tonight so i probably didn't

3560
02:17:07,110 --> 02:17:05,920
hear you talk about that but yeah i mean

3561
02:17:08,790 --> 02:17:07,120
obama was on colbert

3562
02:17:10,790 --> 02:17:08,800
and colbert is like so did you get any

3563
02:17:13,030 --> 02:17:10,800
other ufo information and obama

3564
02:17:14,709 --> 02:17:13,040
what did he say exactly i did but i

3565
02:17:15,669 --> 02:17:14,719
can't talk about it yeah i can't tell

3566
02:17:16,950 --> 02:17:15,679
you sorry

3567
02:17:19,110 --> 02:17:16,960
i can't tell you and colbert is like

3568
02:17:20,709 --> 02:17:19,120
well i'm taking that as an affirmative

3569
02:17:22,070 --> 02:17:20,719
and obama's like well if that's what you

3570
02:17:23,589 --> 02:17:22,080
want to think or something like that

3571
02:17:26,790 --> 02:17:23,599
yeah yeah he's like feel free

3572
02:17:28,870 --> 02:17:26,800
feel feel free to think that way and uh

3573
02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:28,880
stephen colbert very brilliant actually

3574
02:17:32,790 --> 02:17:30,160
oh i do

3575
02:17:33,509 --> 02:17:32,800
right i am gonna i am gonna think like

3576
02:17:36,549 --> 02:17:33,519
that

3577
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:36,559
but is is this something where

3578
02:17:40,389 --> 02:17:39,120
i know uh so many are gonna look into

3579
02:17:42,230 --> 02:17:40,399
that and go aha

3580
02:17:43,669 --> 02:17:42,240
i knew it right he knows something

3581
02:17:46,950 --> 02:17:43,679
they're doing this for a reason

3582
02:17:50,070 --> 02:17:46,960
but why would obama even

3583
02:17:52,230 --> 02:17:50,080
jokingly go and lay out a script

3584
02:17:53,750 --> 02:17:52,240
because this isn't off script right this

3585
02:17:56,150 --> 02:17:53,760
is planned

3586
02:17:57,990 --> 02:17:56,160
what's what's the intention there is

3587
02:18:01,349 --> 02:17:58,000
this a situation

3588
02:18:02,309 --> 02:18:01,359
where uh uh barack is suggesting that

3589
02:18:05,509 --> 02:18:02,319
yeah okay

3590
02:18:08,309 --> 02:18:05,519
we we we know what's going on this is

3591
02:18:11,750 --> 02:18:11,030
yeah probably i mean we're we've moved a

3592
02:18:14,469 --> 02:18:11,760
long way

3593
02:18:15,509 --> 02:18:14,479
culturally even in the last few years

3594
02:18:17,669 --> 02:18:15,519
where

3595
02:18:20,389 --> 02:18:17,679
it's actually not a stigma to be talking

3596
02:18:22,309 --> 02:18:20,399
about ufos openly in society anymore

3597
02:18:23,750 --> 02:18:22,319
i mean it's it's a hard thing for those

3598
02:18:24,070 --> 02:18:23,760
of us who've been involved in this for a

3599
02:18:26,629 --> 02:18:24,080
long

3600
02:18:27,990 --> 02:18:26,639
time even now to wrap our brains around

3601
02:18:30,870 --> 02:18:28,000
this but there's been a

3602
02:18:32,230 --> 02:18:30,880
fundamental cultural shift that has

3603
02:18:33,910 --> 02:18:32,240
happened

3604
02:18:35,509 --> 02:18:33,920
in which i mean look you've got the

3605
02:18:37,990 --> 02:18:35,519
united just

3606
02:18:39,910 --> 02:18:38,000
today tim mcmillan comes out with an

3607
02:18:42,950 --> 02:18:39,920
article dealing with

3608
02:18:45,270 --> 02:18:42,960
uh this leaked

3609
02:18:46,709 --> 02:18:45,280
or i think soon-to-be leaked photograph

3610
02:18:50,309 --> 02:18:46,719
taken by an fa

3611
02:18:52,309 --> 02:18:50,319
uh f-18 e fighter pilot in

3612
02:18:54,309 --> 02:18:52,319
over the atlantic ocean of a massive

3613
02:18:56,230 --> 02:18:54,319
triangle a perfect triangular craft

3614
02:18:58,150 --> 02:18:56,240
coming out of the atlantic ocean

3615
02:18:59,669 --> 02:18:58,160
and there's an like there's a lot of

3616
02:19:02,070 --> 02:18:59,679
detail in that report

3617
02:19:03,429 --> 02:19:02,080
that macmillan got out there i mean a

3618
02:19:05,030 --> 02:19:03,439
lot of this stuff was already i think

3619
02:19:08,469 --> 02:19:05,040
known to ufo researchers

3620
02:19:09,750 --> 02:19:08,479
some of it wasn't uh but all of it was

3621
02:19:11,910 --> 02:19:09,760
was packaged in a way that's quite

3622
02:19:15,030 --> 02:19:11,920
powerful i mean we have

3623
02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:15,040
here in this story discussion of

3624
02:19:21,589 --> 02:19:18,800
top generals uh stating i mean

3625
02:19:23,190 --> 02:19:21,599
openly like the tic tac ufo like no way

3626
02:19:24,709 --> 02:19:23,200
was that black budget no way like we're

3627
02:19:27,429 --> 02:19:24,719
not even close

3628
02:19:30,230 --> 02:19:27,439
um i think davis was or and put off or

3629
02:19:31,830 --> 02:19:30,240
uh included in this article and

3630
02:19:35,030 --> 02:19:31,840
i just think like we've gotten to a

3631
02:19:38,389 --> 02:19:35,040
point where we are on the cusp

3632
02:19:38,950 --> 02:19:38,399
of something even more than where we're

3633
02:19:40,549 --> 02:19:38,960
at like i

3634
02:19:42,709 --> 02:19:40,559
i was thinking earlier this year that

3635
02:19:44,469 --> 02:19:42,719
this could just hit a big red stop sign

3636
02:19:46,629 --> 02:19:44,479
and not go any further

3637
02:19:48,549 --> 02:19:46,639
and by any further meaning no discussion

3638
02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:48,559
of crash retrievals of ufos because

3639
02:19:52,950 --> 02:19:50,240
that's the big next step

3640
02:19:54,150 --> 02:19:52,960
that's where you have to go um otherwise

3641
02:19:55,349 --> 02:19:54,160
we're still at the well we don't know

3642
02:19:56,630 --> 02:19:55,359
what they are phase

3643
02:19:58,309 --> 02:19:56,640
which is what they're still dancing

3644
02:19:59,510 --> 02:19:58,319
around and macmillan's piece was no

3645
02:20:02,550 --> 02:19:59,520
different there he's

3646
02:20:06,070 --> 02:20:02,560
you could tell he was inching toward

3647
02:20:06,469 --> 02:20:06,080
like you know the uh the uap task force

3648
02:20:12,389 --> 02:20:06,479
was

3649
02:20:13,670 --> 02:20:12,399
uap were extraterrestrial and alien like

3650
02:20:16,150 --> 02:20:13,680
and he mentions that

3651
02:20:18,469 --> 02:20:16,160
like that's very interesting but there

3652
02:20:21,510 --> 02:20:18,479
they haven't taken that final step

3653
02:20:22,389 --> 02:20:21,520
that final step is we've got a flying

3654
02:20:25,510 --> 02:20:22,399
saucer

3655
02:20:27,590 --> 02:20:25,520
we're starting to study that thing uh

3656
02:20:29,270 --> 02:20:27,600
and then when you get to that point it

3657
02:20:30,550 --> 02:20:29,280
becomes impossible to deny

3658
02:20:32,710 --> 02:20:30,560
that you've been lying to the public for

3659
02:20:35,590 --> 02:20:32,720
70 whatever years

3660
02:20:36,550 --> 02:20:35,600
did you talk did you reach out not only

3661
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:36,560
to tim

3662
02:20:43,429 --> 02:20:39,760
but i know bob mcguire

3663
02:20:46,469 --> 02:20:43,439
has publicly stated i believe

3664
02:20:47,270 --> 02:20:46,479
he says he's seen the photograph yes bob

3665
02:20:48,790 --> 02:20:47,280
is a friend of mine

3666
02:20:51,190 --> 02:20:48,800
he's a friend of mine he's a friend of

3667
02:20:52,710 --> 02:20:51,200
ours i should say yeah so

3668
02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:52,720
i haven't talked to tim about this but

3669
02:20:58,630 --> 02:20:55,040
i've talked to bob you talked to bob

3670
02:21:02,469 --> 02:20:58,640
i was gonna call bob today um but uh

3671
02:21:04,469 --> 02:21:02,479
okay what has bob actually seen this

3672
02:21:07,110 --> 02:21:04,479
photograph

3673
02:21:07,590 --> 02:21:07,120
well he said he did well you called him

3674
02:21:10,710 --> 02:21:07,600
i mean

3675
02:21:14,070 --> 02:21:10,720
did you guys talk about it

3676
02:21:15,270 --> 02:21:14,080
uh we we messaged you okay so we had a

3677
02:21:18,469 --> 02:21:15,280
little back and forth

3678
02:21:21,750 --> 02:21:18,479
was it right and i didn't

3679
02:21:25,030 --> 02:21:21,760
i didn't care to press at that time

3680
02:21:27,190 --> 02:21:25,040
for details you know he's listening

3681
02:21:28,790 --> 02:21:27,200
you know he's listening he's listening

3682
02:21:32,630 --> 02:21:28,800
right now you know bob's listening

3683
02:21:35,429 --> 02:21:32,640
right sure yeah bob hey bob bob

3684
02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:35,439
call into the show bob has had i mean

3685
02:21:38,150 --> 02:21:36,160
he's had a

3686
02:21:39,670 --> 02:21:38,160
very remarkable career and he's a very

3687
02:21:41,830 --> 02:21:39,680
brilliant man yes

3688
02:21:44,230 --> 02:21:41,840
he's got deep deep knowledge of the

3689
02:21:44,790 --> 02:21:44,240
science behind a lot of this phenomenon

3690
02:21:46,150 --> 02:21:44,800
and i

3691
02:21:48,870 --> 02:21:46,160
very much respect what he has to say

3692
02:21:50,630 --> 02:21:48,880
about this um

3693
02:21:52,309 --> 02:21:50,640
so yeah i mean and i will just say i

3694
02:21:54,309 --> 02:21:52,319
have it on another

3695
02:21:56,389 --> 02:21:54,319
inside source and i'll say that that

3696
02:21:58,630 --> 02:21:56,399
this photograph is likely to be leaked

3697
02:22:00,550 --> 02:21:58,640
pretty soon i mean what we have now is a

3698
02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:00,560
pretty neat artistic rendition of it

3699
02:22:04,309 --> 02:22:03,520
looks cool it's in mcmillan's article uh

3700
02:22:05,990 --> 02:22:04,319
but i think

3701
02:22:07,670 --> 02:22:06,000
i had a conversation i will just say

3702
02:22:07,990 --> 02:22:07,680
this now with james fox a couple of

3703
02:22:09,750 --> 02:22:08,000
weeks

3704
02:22:12,870 --> 02:22:09,760
ago before this came out james knew

3705
02:22:16,309 --> 02:22:12,880
about it uh he was in good position

3706
02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:16,319
um and he didn't he didn't have a lot of

3707
02:22:18,710 --> 02:22:17,840
detail or at least didn't tell me a lot

3708
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:18,720
of detail maybe

3709
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:20,000
he didn't want to tell me or maybe he

3710
02:22:24,790 --> 02:22:22,000
didn't know that's okay

3711
02:22:26,389 --> 02:22:24,800
um but i i have to admit like i was

3712
02:22:27,990 --> 02:22:26,399
surprised by how

3713
02:22:29,590 --> 02:22:28,000
much was able to come out in this

3714
02:22:31,030 --> 02:22:29,600
article because i was

3715
02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:31,040
i had this feeling like the photograph

3716
02:22:32,950 --> 02:22:32,560
would come out like an orphan like no

3717
02:22:34,870 --> 02:22:32,960
one

3718
02:22:36,630 --> 02:22:34,880
would claim it and it would have no

3719
02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:36,640
provenance and you just have the

3720
02:22:40,230 --> 02:22:38,319
skeptics arguing about it like they

3721
02:22:42,070 --> 02:22:40,240
argue about the thomas wilson document

3722
02:22:44,150 --> 02:22:42,080
which i'm going to say to you again i

3723
02:22:44,950 --> 02:22:44,160
know is legit i know israel but we can

3724
02:22:46,950 --> 02:22:44,960
move on

3725
02:22:48,630 --> 02:22:46,960
but you know if something that obvious

3726
02:22:50,950 --> 02:22:48,640
doesn't convince a bunch of skeptics

3727
02:22:52,469 --> 02:22:50,960
then i thought no orphan photograph is

3728
02:22:54,230 --> 02:22:52,479
going to either

3729
02:22:55,670 --> 02:22:54,240
like where where was it from what year

3730
02:22:56,950 --> 02:22:55,680
was it taken

3731
02:22:58,309 --> 02:22:56,960
like i didn't know if there were any

3732
02:22:59,830 --> 02:22:58,319
answers to that but it turns out there

3733
02:23:02,950 --> 02:22:59,840
are answers to that

3734
02:23:05,270 --> 02:23:02,960
and it turns out that this is

3735
02:23:06,469 --> 02:23:05,280
apparently a genuine us air force event

3736
02:23:10,469 --> 02:23:06,479
here

3737
02:23:11,910 --> 02:23:10,479
and this is a triangle leaving the ocean

3738
02:23:14,710 --> 02:23:11,920
going into the atmosphere now look we've

3739
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:14,720
had these reports of this type for

3740
02:23:21,349 --> 02:23:18,000
generations ufo researchers have known

3741
02:23:23,670 --> 02:23:21,359
that this is the real deal but to get it

3742
02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:23,680
at this level of an admission that

3743
02:23:28,790 --> 02:23:25,600
that's very important

3744
02:23:29,590 --> 02:23:28,800
so um you know i'm waiting to see where

3745
02:23:32,950 --> 02:23:29,600
this goes

3746
02:23:35,910 --> 02:23:32,960
and we are this close to

3747
02:23:37,830 --> 02:23:35,920
getting to an a point where we have an

3748
02:23:39,830 --> 02:23:37,840
acknowledgment of crash retrievals

3749
02:23:41,190 --> 02:23:39,840
we're not there yet the new york times

3750
02:23:43,830 --> 02:23:41,200
played around it in

3751
02:23:44,870 --> 02:23:43,840
uh leslie ralph's article last july

3752
02:23:47,750 --> 02:23:44,880
where they talked

3753
02:23:48,710 --> 02:23:47,760
a little bit about it uh but they gave

3754
02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:48,720
enough

3755
02:23:52,230 --> 02:23:51,760
deniability that the military could you

3756
02:23:54,630 --> 02:23:52,240
know

3757
02:23:55,990 --> 02:23:54,640
walk away from it but we're really

3758
02:23:58,790 --> 02:23:56,000
inching toward it and

3759
02:24:00,950 --> 02:23:58,800
i think once we get to a point of um

3760
02:24:02,870 --> 02:24:00,960
acknowledging openly acknowledging uap

3761
02:24:05,750 --> 02:24:02,880
ufo crash retrievals

3762
02:24:07,349 --> 02:24:05,760
it's going to be very difficult to stop

3763
02:24:09,030 --> 02:24:07,359
a real avalanche effect

3764
02:24:10,870 --> 02:24:09,040
this is what bryce zabel and i wrote

3765
02:24:13,590 --> 02:24:10,880
about 10 years ago

3766
02:24:13,990 --> 02:24:13,600
when we wrote after disclosure the idea

3767
02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:14,000
that we

3768
02:24:18,630 --> 02:24:17,200
had that at that time was a major event

3769
02:24:20,309 --> 02:24:18,640
or a major leak would happen

3770
02:24:22,790 --> 02:24:20,319
that would cause an avalanche effect

3771
02:24:24,150 --> 02:24:22,800
like one leak coming out after another

3772
02:24:25,429 --> 02:24:24,160
another and another and another and the

3773
02:24:26,790 --> 02:24:25,439
next thing you know like the whole apple

3774
02:24:30,469 --> 02:24:26,800
cart's turned over

3775
02:24:33,030 --> 02:24:30,479
and what has happened so far is

3776
02:24:34,389 --> 02:24:33,040
that has not happened we've had some

3777
02:24:36,710 --> 02:24:34,399
significant

3778
02:24:37,429 --> 02:24:36,720
new admissions and yet no avalanche

3779
02:24:39,110 --> 02:24:37,439
effect

3780
02:24:40,630 --> 02:24:39,120
and i keep asking myself what will get

3781
02:24:43,429 --> 02:24:40,640
us there and i

3782
02:24:44,469 --> 02:24:43,439
think at this point it would be hard to

3783
02:24:46,230 --> 02:24:44,479
back away

3784
02:24:48,230 --> 02:24:46,240
from an open acknowledgement of ufo

3785
02:24:49,670 --> 02:24:48,240
crash retrievals and the study of that

3786
02:24:51,429 --> 02:24:49,680
technology

3787
02:24:52,870 --> 02:24:51,439
because that is an open admission of a

3788
02:24:55,910 --> 02:24:52,880
cover-up there's no doubt

3789
02:24:57,349 --> 02:24:55,920
and when i looked at the the

3790
02:25:00,070 --> 02:24:57,359
illustration

3791
02:25:00,830 --> 02:25:00,080
and i'm picturing myself if there is a

3792
02:25:04,550 --> 02:25:00,840
vetted

3793
02:25:06,870 --> 02:25:04,560
verifiable authentic case closed

3794
02:25:08,070 --> 02:25:06,880
photograph of what is being portrayed

3795
02:25:12,710 --> 02:25:08,080
here

3796
02:25:15,750 --> 02:25:12,720
be done oh absolutely because i mean

3797
02:25:18,230 --> 02:25:15,760
this isn't the tic tac ufo sad that

3798
02:25:19,429 --> 02:25:18,240
this is this is taking things uh to a

3799
02:25:22,230 --> 02:25:19,439
completely

3800
02:25:23,429 --> 02:25:22,240
uh new level well i don't know if i

3801
02:25:26,230 --> 02:25:23,439
would agree with you there

3802
02:25:27,830 --> 02:25:26,240
uh the tic tac ufo is 2004 and has

3803
02:25:29,190 --> 02:25:27,840
instant acceleration to multiple

3804
02:25:31,270 --> 02:25:29,200
thousands of miles per hour

3805
02:25:32,550 --> 02:25:31,280
we have no idea how to do that there's

3806
02:25:36,070 --> 02:25:32,560
no science

3807
02:25:37,670 --> 02:25:36,080
but that doesn't happen hypothesizes

3808
02:25:39,830 --> 02:25:37,680
and he may be right but we don't we

3809
02:25:41,349 --> 02:25:39,840
don't have any empirical

3810
02:25:42,870 --> 02:25:41,359
and material science like we don't know

3811
02:25:43,910 --> 02:25:42,880
how to do that yeah but what i'm

3812
02:25:47,110 --> 02:25:43,920
suggesting here

3813
02:25:48,790 --> 02:25:47,120
is what's in the tic tac video is not

3814
02:25:50,710 --> 02:25:48,800
that acceleration that you're referring

3815
02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:50,720
to that is no i'm talking about fravor's

3816
02:25:54,389 --> 02:25:51,200
story

3817
02:25:56,389 --> 02:25:54,399
what's in

3818
02:25:58,150 --> 02:25:56,399
this image and his co-pilots and

3819
02:25:59,030 --> 02:25:58,160
colleagues right but what's in this

3820
02:26:02,630 --> 02:25:59,040
image

3821
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:02,640
this is a whole now like i said

3822
02:26:06,150 --> 02:26:04,000
that's right and the fact that it's

3823
02:26:08,870 --> 02:26:06,160
trans uh trans medium so

3824
02:26:09,910 --> 02:26:08,880
from water to to atmosphere that's right

3825
02:26:13,030 --> 02:26:09,920
and and we don't

3826
02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:13,040
we don't have knowledge of how to do

3827
02:26:17,670 --> 02:26:14,240
that

3828
02:26:20,070 --> 02:26:17,680
tic tac at least we believe

3829
02:26:21,990 --> 02:26:20,080
or at least it seems that it was either

3830
02:26:23,030 --> 02:26:22,000
on the water or possibly under the water

3831
02:26:25,110 --> 02:26:23,040
and then it came out

3832
02:26:26,469 --> 02:26:25,120
but with this triangular ufo that we're

3833
02:26:30,070 --> 02:26:26,479
hearing about now this is just

3834
02:26:30,790 --> 02:26:30,080
2019 allegedly right comes out of the

3835
02:26:34,710 --> 02:26:30,800
water and

3836
02:26:36,950 --> 02:26:34,720
zooms off you know to um

3837
02:26:38,070 --> 02:26:36,960
and it's this perfect beautiful triangle

3838
02:26:40,230 --> 02:26:38,080
now is uh

3839
02:26:41,510 --> 02:26:40,240
before i let you go what do you know

3840
02:26:45,030 --> 02:26:41,520
about the image

3841
02:26:48,309 --> 02:26:45,040
is the image a still from a video

3842
02:26:50,710 --> 02:26:48,319
or is it just a digital

3843
02:26:52,710 --> 02:26:50,720
uh image a photograph well i i don't

3844
02:26:53,030 --> 02:26:52,720
know i mean i'm not the expert here but

3845
02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:53,040
my

3846
02:26:57,270 --> 02:26:54,800
understanding is that it's a photograph

3847
02:26:58,950 --> 02:26:57,280
right and in fact that was one reason i

3848
02:26:59,910 --> 02:26:58,960
was a bit skeptical that it would really

3849
02:27:01,510 --> 02:26:59,920
have

3850
02:27:03,349 --> 02:27:01,520
any ability to move the needle in any

3851
02:27:05,349 --> 02:27:03,359
way i thought right right picture like

3852
02:27:06,630 --> 02:27:05,359
i don't care how good the picture looks

3853
02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:06,640
uh i don't think that's going to

3854
02:27:10,469 --> 02:27:08,080
convince people

3855
02:27:11,110 --> 02:27:10,479
but if it's a really great i was always

3856
02:27:13,590 --> 02:27:11,120
told off

3857
02:27:15,110 --> 02:27:13,600
all this time it was an amazing picture

3858
02:27:15,990 --> 02:27:15,120
and that's what macmillan writes in his

3859
02:27:20,389 --> 02:27:16,000
article it's an amazing

3860
02:27:23,990 --> 02:27:20,399
picture um and if it has a

3861
02:27:26,870 --> 02:27:24,000
if a provenance of some sort and a date

3862
02:27:27,670 --> 02:27:26,880
and a place like that does give it some

3863
02:27:29,830 --> 02:27:27,680
power that

3864
02:27:31,670 --> 02:27:29,840
that can give it an ability to get

3865
02:27:34,389 --> 02:27:31,680
people maybe to take it seriously

3866
02:27:36,389 --> 02:27:34,399
if it's a military image right you see

3867
02:27:39,429 --> 02:27:36,399
the the the pilot comes forward

3868
02:27:42,870 --> 02:27:39,439
yes this is it i i took the yeah if that

3869
02:27:44,469 --> 02:27:42,880
that this is different

3870
02:27:46,950 --> 02:27:44,479
than from you know having that kind of

3871
02:27:48,070 --> 02:27:46,960
provenance that this isn't third phase

3872
02:27:52,070 --> 02:27:48,080
of moon

3873
02:27:53,510 --> 02:27:52,080
right there's a whole other situation

3874
02:27:55,429 --> 02:27:53,520
a whole other situation i'm very

3875
02:27:57,429 --> 02:27:55,439
intrigued i'm very intrigued i

3876
02:27:58,469 --> 02:27:57,439
i want to know what bob has to say i

3877
02:28:02,150 --> 02:27:58,479
want to know

3878
02:28:04,230 --> 02:28:02,160
uh did did tim mcmillan did he i know he

3879
02:28:06,950 --> 02:28:04,240
i read his article it was great did he

3880
02:28:09,110 --> 02:28:06,960
see it or is he just

3881
02:28:10,550 --> 02:28:09,120
reporting the story i don't know

3882
02:28:12,550 --> 02:28:10,560
actually that's a good question

3883
02:28:13,830 --> 02:28:12,560
right right because i've i've read the

3884
02:28:16,870 --> 02:28:13,840
article um

3885
02:28:19,190 --> 02:28:16,880
a couple of times today and

3886
02:28:19,990 --> 02:28:19,200
actually i don't know if he made that

3887
02:28:22,389 --> 02:28:20,000
statement

3888
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no he i really saw the photograph right

3889
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he may not have

3890
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it was bob that jumped in and said hey

3891
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hey i've seen the image

3892
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that tim is talking about yeah it's

3893
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interesting because that image i mean

3894
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the way it was written about is that it

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was passed around in some classified

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circles you know i mean this was hot

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stuff um

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and so it was all seen by people with

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clearances

3900
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man thank you so much richard what a

3901
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great night tonight

3902
02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:47,760
uh thank you so much when am i gonna see

3903
02:28:51,190 --> 02:28:48,640
you again

3904
02:28:51,990 --> 02:28:51,200
what is 2021 playing out to be what's

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going on well

3906
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we will figure it out don't know yet we

3907
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will figure it out you know i look

3908
02:28:58,070 --> 02:28:56,479
forward to

3909
02:28:59,750 --> 02:28:58,080
that's lame next time we get together

3910
02:29:02,309 --> 02:28:59,760
that's lame

3911
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richard thank you so much listen man be

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safe much success on the book

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i know that it's uh it's number one as

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it should be

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on amazon and we've got all the links

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for it

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uh i highly highly recommend this and

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for everybody out there that

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is wondering uh how richard would

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approach

3921
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these subjects this is the book it's all

3922
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right there for you thank you so much

3923
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richard give our best to tracy

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and enjoy the rest of your week man

3925
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thank you so much thank you so much

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jimmy thanks to all the listeners

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great being on with you you're the best

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richard bleepin

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dolan all right i'm going to take a

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quick break right here

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and uh i'm gonna come back i'll open up

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lots to talk about tonight thank you so

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much richard and

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i'll be right back this is fade to black

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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and kg r

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a the planet that's an unbelievably

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great conversation with richard dolan

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you know this is it

4051
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every time richard is on the show it's

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the same thing it just gets

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elevated to another level um

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just uh an amazing conversation and

4055
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i um uh years ago i made this comment uh

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to richard um and and i had said look

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richard goes on a show doesn't he

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you know for the first time let's say

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and he's he's being interviewed by

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somebody for the first time

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and they go through the same questions

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and you know it's

4063
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you know it's just it's right there and

4064
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maybe there isn't never a second show

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right and there isn't a third show but

4066
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richard and i

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we got all of that stuff out the

4068
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formalities

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we got all of that out of the way uh uh

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almost eight years ago

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and we don't have to visit all of those

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subjects

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we are able to uh

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go to the next level with a conversation

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and and it's it's a level of trust um

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that that goes both ways and we are able

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to do that

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and this audience you guys out there you

4079
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get to

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enjoy that that's a real honest

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conversation uh about real subjects from

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from uh two people that trust each other

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and that's great and for me

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it's just an enjoyable experience

4085
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because i'm able to learn

4086
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right i'm just i'm we're just going into

4087
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those zones

4088
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absolutely uh incredible show um so

4089
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uh the links are are right there you can

4090
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go over to amazon and get the book

4091
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i'm excited about the audiobook um but

4092
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uh the book is fantastic i'm i'm letting

4093
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you know right now

4094
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there's one thing when you get the book

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i want you

4096
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to remember what i had mentioned

4097
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to richard uh earlier in the show and

4098
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that is when you get the book

4099
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just go through the table of contents

4100
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and just look at how it's all laid out

4101
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i think there's five chapters and and

4102
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maybe six five but just look how it lays

4103
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out

4104
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all the way down and then go and read

4105
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the book and you'll understand

4106
02:37:23,190 --> 02:37:19,600
uh my point i am sure that that was

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uh a fun book to write and it's very

4108
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smooth

4109
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thing and i'm gonna get the phone calls

4110
02:37:32,309 --> 02:37:31,359
in just a second uh richard said one

4111
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thing you know

4112
02:37:38,070 --> 02:37:35,359
man i i was able to uh uh

4113
02:37:39,429 --> 02:37:38,080
get a sense of release and relief to

4114
02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:39,439
finally you know write about these

4115
02:37:44,070 --> 02:37:40,720
subjects that i've never

4116
02:37:46,550 --> 02:37:44,080
really concentrated on before and

4117
02:37:47,190 --> 02:37:46,560
and there you go so now it's out and and

4118
02:37:50,469 --> 02:37:47,200
there's a

4119
02:37:52,070 --> 02:37:50,479
a an amount of relief there and you can

4120
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feel it you can feel it in the book

4121
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it's uh really really excellent so go

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and get it

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02:37:58,870 --> 02:37:56,960
and uh with that i'm your host jimmy

4124
02:38:00,710 --> 02:37:58,880
church thank you richard dolan

4125
02:38:02,550 --> 02:38:00,720
and uh let's go to the phones let's see

4126
02:38:04,550 --> 02:38:02,560
who's up first hi you're live on fade to

4127
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black who's calling

4128
02:38:08,550 --> 02:38:06,800
hey it's carrie in palm springs jimmy

4129
02:38:10,950 --> 02:38:08,560
hey carrie in palm springs what'd you

4130
02:38:13,590 --> 02:38:10,960
think of that conversation

4131
02:38:16,790 --> 02:38:13,600
wow what an excellent show tonight thank

4132
02:38:19,030 --> 02:38:16,800
you so much for having mr dolan on

4133
02:38:19,910 --> 02:38:19,040
you two have a great rhythm you know

4134
02:38:21,510 --> 02:38:19,920
when you two

4135
02:38:23,510 --> 02:38:21,520
talk and it's just it's more like a

4136
02:38:25,990 --> 02:38:23,520
conversation than an interview and it's

4137
02:38:28,790 --> 02:38:26,000
it's just so great for

4138
02:38:31,110 --> 02:38:28,800
you know us as your listening audience

4139
02:38:31,429 --> 02:38:31,120
to really benefit from your relationship

4140
02:38:34,550 --> 02:38:31,439
with

4141
02:38:36,950 --> 02:38:34,560
bob

4142
02:38:38,070 --> 02:38:36,960
the the the pleasure is all mine that's

4143
02:38:39,750 --> 02:38:38,080
a lot of fun to

4144
02:38:42,469 --> 02:38:39,760
to have richard on the show what what

4145
02:38:44,389 --> 02:38:42,479
stood out for you

4146
02:38:45,590 --> 02:38:44,399
well you know i think you know the

4147
02:38:48,630 --> 02:38:45,600
number one question is

4148
02:38:50,950 --> 02:38:48,640
a are they here are they real do we have

4149
02:38:52,870 --> 02:38:50,960
aliens the answer of course is yes

4150
02:38:54,870 --> 02:38:52,880
but then the second most immediate

4151
02:38:56,469 --> 02:38:54,880
question is what is their agenda why are

4152
02:38:58,469 --> 02:38:56,479
they here and i think it's brilliant

4153
02:39:01,270 --> 02:38:58,479
that he wrote a book you know

4154
02:39:02,150 --> 02:39:01,280
you know bringing that actual question

4155
02:39:04,150 --> 02:39:02,160
to light

4156
02:39:05,270 --> 02:39:04,160
not if they're here wherever they you

4157
02:39:07,830 --> 02:39:05,280
know la la

4158
02:39:09,110 --> 02:39:07,840
they're here why are they here what are

4159
02:39:11,030 --> 02:39:09,120
they doing and

4160
02:39:12,150 --> 02:39:11,040
you know you can extrapolate from all

4161
02:39:15,670 --> 02:39:12,160
the different you know

4162
02:39:18,870 --> 02:39:15,680
stories and documented experiences

4163
02:39:21,270 --> 02:39:18,880
and sightings and abductions

4164
02:39:22,070 --> 02:39:21,280
but you know and there may be different

4165
02:39:24,389 --> 02:39:22,080
races

4166
02:39:25,190 --> 02:39:24,399
there may be you know different aliens

4167
02:39:27,590 --> 02:39:25,200
you know

4168
02:39:28,389 --> 02:39:27,600
there who knows but i think that's such

4169
02:39:30,550 --> 02:39:28,399
a you know

4170
02:39:33,190 --> 02:39:30,560
that is really a deep the deeper

4171
02:39:36,469 --> 02:39:33,200
question now it's becoming more of the

4172
02:39:39,510 --> 02:39:36,479
forefront not are they here

4173
02:39:40,070 --> 02:39:39,520
are they real okay let's establish that

4174
02:39:43,349 --> 02:39:40,080
that's

4175
02:39:45,830 --> 02:39:43,359
it's

4176
02:39:47,670 --> 02:39:45,840
what are they doing what do you know are

4177
02:39:48,230 --> 02:39:47,680
we ever going to have communication

4178
02:39:51,190 --> 02:39:48,240
that's

4179
02:39:52,070 --> 02:39:51,200
you know broadly known are they just

4180
02:39:55,030 --> 02:39:52,080
observing us

4181
02:39:55,670 --> 02:39:55,040
are they intervening and we we don't

4182
02:39:58,710 --> 02:39:55,680
know

4183
02:40:01,750 --> 02:39:58,720
or all of them are or all of the above

4184
02:40:03,670 --> 02:40:01,760
or all of the above that's right and so

4185
02:40:04,790 --> 02:40:03,680
you know from my experience that i

4186
02:40:09,190 --> 02:40:04,800
experienced in

4187
02:40:09,670 --> 02:40:09,200
los angeles in 1979 as a nine-year-old

4188
02:40:13,110 --> 02:40:09,680
kid

4189
02:40:15,990 --> 02:40:13,120
seeing an incredible uh sighting

4190
02:40:18,150 --> 02:40:16,000
as it was my intuition at that age

4191
02:40:21,269 --> 02:40:18,160
they're here to explore

4192
02:40:22,550 --> 02:40:21,279
to find out more about us they're

4193
02:40:25,590 --> 02:40:22,560
interested

4194
02:40:28,389 --> 02:40:25,600
they you know they

4195
02:40:30,309 --> 02:40:28,399
they're doing it under guys you know

4196
02:40:33,510 --> 02:40:30,319
they don't want to disrupt

4197
02:40:37,190 --> 02:40:33,520
at least at that point in 1979

4198
02:40:40,309 --> 02:40:37,200
but they they

4199
02:40:42,150 --> 02:40:40,319
are very interested and they have a deep

4200
02:40:46,230 --> 02:40:42,160
interest somehow

4201
02:40:48,389 --> 02:40:46,240
in our military and uh

4202
02:40:49,429 --> 02:40:48,399
you know deciding if i was on the fourth

4203
02:40:51,429 --> 02:40:49,439
of july was that an

4204
02:40:53,349 --> 02:40:51,439
accident was that a coincidence i don't

4205
02:40:54,389 --> 02:40:53,359
know you know were they making a

4206
02:40:57,190 --> 02:40:54,399
statement by that

4207
02:40:57,830 --> 02:40:57,200
sighting that was pretty big um i don't

4208
02:41:01,269 --> 02:40:57,840
know

4209
02:41:01,990 --> 02:41:01,279
but i think that there's some sort of

4210
02:41:05,670 --> 02:41:02,000
link where

4211
02:41:08,710 --> 02:41:05,680
these you know navy fighters are seeing

4212
02:41:10,550 --> 02:41:08,720
you know multiple sightings this alleged

4213
02:41:11,590 --> 02:41:10,560
new picture that's going to be coming

4214
02:41:14,950 --> 02:41:11,600
out

4215
02:41:17,349 --> 02:41:14,960
um you know there's once again over and

4216
02:41:21,590 --> 02:41:17,359
over there's this military

4217
02:41:23,349 --> 02:41:21,600
link and um and what's the agenda there

4218
02:41:25,349 --> 02:41:23,359
when they fly over our nukes and they

4219
02:41:27,429 --> 02:41:25,359
shut everything down

4220
02:41:29,510 --> 02:41:27,439
you know so i don't know i think that

4221
02:41:33,349 --> 02:41:29,520
this is the new probing question

4222
02:41:35,750 --> 02:41:33,359
what is the agenda and how can we

4223
02:41:37,269 --> 02:41:35,760
bridge contact with them and and

4224
02:41:41,269 --> 02:41:37,279
communication

4225
02:41:43,750 --> 02:41:41,279
and then from the agenda must go greater

4226
02:41:45,670 --> 02:41:43,760
contact connection communication and i

4227
02:41:47,750 --> 02:41:45,680
think that's

4228
02:41:48,710 --> 02:41:47,760
that's that we'll find out the agenda

4229
02:41:51,269 --> 02:41:48,720
once we start

4230
02:41:53,349 --> 02:41:51,279
open communication whenever that is yeah

4231
02:41:56,950 --> 02:41:53,359
you're really gonna enjoy this book

4232
02:41:59,349 --> 02:41:56,960
and i i didn't want to get into the

4233
02:42:01,830 --> 02:41:59,359
subject of what the agendas are

4234
02:42:03,429 --> 02:42:01,840
that's for the reader to go and check

4235
02:42:04,469 --> 02:42:03,439
the book i can't wait to crack this one

4236
02:42:07,750 --> 02:42:04,479
out

4237
02:42:10,230 --> 02:42:07,760
it's it's plural

4238
02:42:12,230 --> 02:42:10,240
you're right you know this isn't just

4239
02:42:14,230 --> 02:42:12,240
from one mindset and

4240
02:42:16,550 --> 02:42:14,240
uh it's very complete and you know

4241
02:42:19,269 --> 02:42:16,560
coming from richard to have him

4242
02:42:20,070 --> 02:42:19,279
uh ponder uh these very important

4243
02:42:22,309 --> 02:42:20,080
questions

4244
02:42:23,910 --> 02:42:22,319
and and able to present it like he does

4245
02:42:25,910 --> 02:42:23,920
in this book it's great

4246
02:42:26,950 --> 02:42:25,920
i mean he's just a great writer and he's

4247
02:42:30,870 --> 02:42:26,960
a great mind

4248
02:42:34,389 --> 02:42:30,880
but this is uh easily digestible

4249
02:42:36,309 --> 02:42:34,399
um i i read it quickly and i enjoyed it

4250
02:42:38,469 --> 02:42:36,319
and there you go so go and get it

4251
02:42:40,070 --> 02:42:38,479
and uh let me know let me know let me

4252
02:42:43,030 --> 02:42:40,080
know i will

4253
02:42:43,269 --> 02:42:43,040
thank you so much have a good one you

4254
02:42:46,309 --> 02:42:43,279
too

4255
02:42:49,990 --> 02:42:46,319
thank you thank you so much um

4256
02:42:52,630 --> 02:42:50,000
thank you thank you and uh carrie uh

4257
02:42:53,190 --> 02:42:52,640
uh brings up a really really really

4258
02:42:56,309 --> 02:42:53,200
really

4259
02:42:59,990 --> 02:42:56,319
know

4260
02:43:03,110 --> 02:43:00,000
as far as what an agenda may be

4261
02:43:05,510 --> 02:43:03,120
um and looking at where we are with our

4262
02:43:06,550 --> 02:43:05,520
military let me just let me tell you

4263
02:43:10,070 --> 02:43:06,560
something

4264
02:43:13,830 --> 02:43:10,080
i don't know if e.t

4265
02:43:17,429 --> 02:43:13,840
wants us humans us earthlings

4266
02:43:19,110 --> 02:43:17,439
unleashed into our solar system in

4267
02:43:22,630 --> 02:43:19,120
interstellar space

4268
02:43:25,990 --> 02:43:22,640
with like photon cannons

4269
02:43:29,190 --> 02:43:26,000
and nuclear weapons i know that

4270
02:43:30,230 --> 02:43:29,200
at this stage of the game that's not a

4271
02:43:32,790 --> 02:43:30,240
good idea

4272
02:43:34,070 --> 02:43:32,800
so absolutely they are interested in

4273
02:43:38,309 --> 02:43:34,080
where we are

4274
02:43:41,670 --> 02:43:38,319
on on the progress of uh being able to

4275
02:43:44,230 --> 02:43:41,680
uh have uh futuristic

4276
02:43:44,950 --> 02:43:44,240
crazy offensive weapons let's go back to

4277
02:43:46,389 --> 02:43:44,960
the phones

4278
02:43:48,389 --> 02:43:46,399
hi you're live on fade to black who's

4279
02:43:50,550 --> 02:43:48,399
calling

4280
02:43:53,670 --> 02:43:50,560
hey jimmy this is nathan in ohio hi

4281
02:43:56,870 --> 02:43:53,680
nathan what's going on man

4282
02:43:58,389 --> 02:43:56,880
yeah i really just wanted to say uh echo

4283
02:44:00,790 --> 02:43:58,399
what she was saying it was a great

4284
02:44:02,950 --> 02:44:00,800
interview with richard uh it was a good

4285
02:44:05,269 --> 02:44:02,960
i i really do think i'm gonna try to

4286
02:44:08,309 --> 02:44:05,279
read this one and

4287
02:44:11,990 --> 02:44:08,319
uh but i also

4288
02:44:15,110 --> 02:44:12,000
uh i i richard's like my

4289
02:44:18,309 --> 02:44:15,120
favorite researcher

4290
02:44:21,190 --> 02:44:18,319
type anyway he's always been

4291
02:44:23,030 --> 02:44:21,200
very i don't know this is a different

4292
02:44:26,230 --> 02:44:23,040
subject than his normal subject

4293
02:44:27,030 --> 02:44:26,240
sort of well he's a historian he's a

4294
02:44:29,510 --> 02:44:27,040
historian

4295
02:44:30,309 --> 02:44:29,520
you know yeah he likes documents he's

4296
02:44:31,750 --> 02:44:30,319
pragmatic

4297
02:44:33,910 --> 02:44:31,760
it's black and white give me the

4298
02:44:36,389 --> 02:44:33,920
evidence let's talk about the facts

4299
02:44:38,389 --> 02:44:36,399
and that's what that's that's his

4300
02:44:41,269 --> 02:44:38,399
approach

4301
02:44:42,469 --> 02:44:41,279
it's just cool that he's writing this

4302
02:44:44,469 --> 02:44:42,479
book because

4303
02:44:46,309 --> 02:44:44,479
i mean that is the subject you know my

4304
02:44:48,550 --> 02:44:46,319
experiences are what

4305
02:44:50,070 --> 02:44:48,560
led me to the subject in the first place

4306
02:44:52,230 --> 02:44:50,080
versus

4307
02:44:54,469 --> 02:44:52,240
you know just asking random asking

4308
02:44:55,830 --> 02:44:54,479
questions randomly trying to find things

4309
02:45:00,150 --> 02:44:55,840
out you know

4310
02:45:02,230 --> 02:45:00,160
so i you know and uh so

4311
02:45:04,070 --> 02:45:02,240
he's one of the few you know most of the

4312
02:45:06,870 --> 02:45:04,080
stuff i've read about abductions

4313
02:45:08,710 --> 02:45:06,880
tend to be abduction accounts from

4314
02:45:11,750 --> 02:45:08,720
experiencers

4315
02:45:13,590 --> 02:45:11,760
and you know and so many of the people

4316
02:45:13,990 --> 02:45:13,600
who know that subject that we're really

4317
02:45:17,030 --> 02:45:14,000
good

4318
02:45:19,349 --> 02:45:17,040
in it are not really like

4319
02:45:21,030 --> 02:45:19,359
bud hopkins is gone and john mack is

4320
02:45:27,510 --> 02:45:21,040
gone and

4321
02:45:28,790 --> 02:45:27,520
all those people that were discussing

4322
02:45:31,429 --> 02:45:28,800
these things what

4323
02:45:32,870 --> 02:45:31,439
these things were doing to people or i

4324
02:45:33,349 --> 02:45:32,880
mean you know whitney streepers still

4325
02:45:36,150 --> 02:45:33,359
around

4326
02:45:37,429 --> 02:45:36,160
but you know these are the but richard

4327
02:45:39,030 --> 02:45:37,439
dolan's

4328
02:45:42,150 --> 02:45:39,040
up there because he's kind of an

4329
02:45:46,389 --> 02:45:42,160
independent observer of the subject

4330
02:45:49,590 --> 02:45:46,399
in that sense you know and

4331
02:45:51,830 --> 02:45:49,600
uh no you're right it's not you're

4332
02:45:54,710 --> 02:45:51,840
really going to enjoy the book

4333
02:45:55,590 --> 02:45:54,720
and there's information in there i'm not

4334
02:45:58,950 --> 02:45:55,600
going to give

4335
02:46:01,830 --> 02:45:58,960
anything away but uh the

4336
02:46:03,750 --> 02:46:01,840
the the stuff in there about abductions

4337
02:46:05,429 --> 02:46:03,760
and experiences from individuals

4338
02:46:07,349 --> 02:46:05,439
are cases that have never been public

4339
02:46:12,469 --> 02:46:07,359
before um

4340
02:46:15,830 --> 02:46:12,479
i i i know a couple of these individuals

4341
02:46:18,389 --> 02:46:15,840
and not all of them but but a few

4342
02:46:19,030 --> 02:46:18,399
and these have never been out there

4343
02:46:21,990 --> 02:46:19,040
before

4344
02:46:23,349 --> 02:46:22,000
and it's it's it's new information and

4345
02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:23,359
it's also coming

4346
02:46:28,870 --> 02:46:27,040
from uh it's more of a modern sense

4347
02:46:31,830 --> 02:46:28,880
we're in 2020 right now

4348
02:46:32,710 --> 02:46:31,840
and everybody is going through what they

4349
02:46:35,429 --> 02:46:32,720
are going through

4350
02:46:36,230 --> 02:46:35,439
on this planet and richard wrote this

4351
02:46:40,389 --> 02:46:36,240
book

4352
02:46:43,110 --> 02:46:40,399
during this craziness of this planet

4353
02:46:44,870 --> 02:46:43,120
and there's a there's a sense of that in

4354
02:46:45,590 --> 02:46:44,880
this book too and he talks about that a

4355
02:46:47,110 --> 02:46:45,600
little bit

4356
02:46:49,429 --> 02:46:47,120
but yeah you're really gonna enjoy it

4357
02:46:51,990 --> 02:46:49,439
nathan so go and pick it up and then uh

4358
02:46:52,550 --> 02:46:52,000
let me know what you think all right i

4359
02:46:55,110 --> 02:46:52,560
will

4360
02:46:56,309 --> 02:46:55,120
have a great night yeah be safe be safe

4361
02:46:58,630 --> 02:46:56,319
and uh

4362
02:46:59,750 --> 02:46:58,640
thank you for that and for somebody like

4363
02:47:02,870 --> 02:46:59,760
nathan

4364
02:47:05,510 --> 02:47:02,880
um and if you've had an experience

4365
02:47:05,990 --> 02:47:05,520
and you've wondered about this uh this

4366
02:47:11,750 --> 02:47:06,000
is

4367
02:47:12,710 --> 02:47:11,760
information out there that just quite

4368
02:47:16,469 --> 02:47:12,720
simply

4369
02:47:19,030 --> 02:47:16,479
um i've i've i've read so much and

4370
02:47:21,429 --> 02:47:19,040
researched so much and for me to go in

4371
02:47:23,830 --> 02:47:21,439
uh to a book like this and and go wow

4372
02:47:25,990 --> 02:47:23,840
okay all right here we go

4373
02:47:27,990 --> 02:47:26,000
well there you go all right so the links

4374
02:47:29,110 --> 02:47:28,000
are over at jimmychurchradio.com

4375
02:47:32,630 --> 02:47:29,120
let's go back to the phones hi you're

4376
02:47:39,110 --> 02:47:36,469
shane sandler this is who

4377
02:47:41,349 --> 02:47:39,120
james james where are you calling from

4378
02:47:43,830 --> 02:47:41,359
james

4379
02:47:45,830 --> 02:47:43,840
um i'm calling i'm a recurring guest i

4380
02:47:46,630 --> 02:47:45,840
called last week uh on the david

4381
02:47:49,110 --> 02:47:46,640
schrader show

4382
02:47:50,790 --> 02:47:49,120
talking about life before death okay

4383
02:47:54,870 --> 02:47:50,800
okay what'd you think of the uh

4384
02:47:57,190 --> 02:47:54,880
conversation tonight with uh mr dolan

4385
02:47:59,190 --> 02:47:57,200
oh man i'm a big fan of richard doley

4386
02:48:02,550 --> 02:47:59,200
he's the greatest isn't it

4387
02:48:05,190 --> 02:48:02,560
it's uh uh he

4388
02:48:05,590 --> 02:48:05,200
well i think that we all recognize this

4389
02:48:09,349 --> 02:48:05,600
but

4390
02:48:11,030 --> 02:48:09,359
he is so respected um in our community

4391
02:48:14,309 --> 02:48:11,040
and outside of the community

4392
02:48:17,670 --> 02:48:14,319
but uh when we do conferences uh

4393
02:48:20,790 --> 02:48:17,680
throughout the year um i

4394
02:48:23,910 --> 02:48:20,800
usually if if i'm able to uh

4395
02:48:26,150 --> 02:48:23,920
i introduced i i introduced richard

4396
02:48:27,190 --> 02:48:26,160
and i say the same thing every single

4397
02:48:29,510 --> 02:48:27,200
time

4398
02:48:30,309 --> 02:48:29,520
sit and listen and it's an honor and a

4399
02:48:33,030 --> 02:48:30,319
privilege

4400
02:48:34,150 --> 02:48:33,040
that this man represents us and this

4401
02:48:36,710 --> 02:48:34,160
community

4402
02:48:38,070 --> 02:48:36,720
pay attention here's richard dolan and i

4403
02:48:39,510 --> 02:48:38,080
just get off the stage but i let

4404
02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:39,520
everybody know

4405
02:48:45,750 --> 02:48:42,640
what what i think and and the way that

4406
02:48:47,030 --> 02:48:45,760
uh this community should appreciate uh

4407
02:48:49,349 --> 02:48:47,040
what he has done for us

4408
02:48:52,790 --> 02:48:49,359
uh over the last 20 years what stood out

4409
02:48:55,190 --> 02:48:52,800
in the uh conversation tonight

4410
02:48:57,670 --> 02:48:55,200
uh i was wondering what what do you

4411
02:48:59,990 --> 02:48:57,680
think about

4412
02:49:01,750 --> 02:49:00,000
that the whole the whole how the whole

4413
02:49:03,670 --> 02:49:01,760
alien agenda how um

4414
02:49:04,950 --> 02:49:03,680
how do you what do you think they

4415
02:49:08,230 --> 02:49:04,960
actually stay at

4416
02:49:11,510 --> 02:49:08,240
like you know i you know i i'm getting

4417
02:49:13,269 --> 02:49:11,520
beginning to wonder that they stay like

4418
02:49:15,030 --> 02:49:13,279
they live under the ocean like you know

4419
02:49:18,389 --> 02:49:15,040
like usos

4420
02:49:22,309 --> 02:49:18,399
well why not i mean that's part of it um

4421
02:49:24,469 --> 02:49:22,319
uh we've we know less about our ocean

4422
02:49:26,469 --> 02:49:24,479
than we do the moon

4423
02:49:27,910 --> 02:49:26,479
all right there's we've mapped five

4424
02:49:30,710 --> 02:49:27,920
percent of the ocean

4425
02:49:32,070 --> 02:49:30,720
right we don't know what's down there so

4426
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:32,080
if you're gonna hide

4427
02:49:35,190 --> 02:49:34,240
hide in the water uh there's no question

4428
02:49:37,830 --> 02:49:35,200
about it

4429
02:49:39,110 --> 02:49:37,840
but there's another part there's another

4430
02:49:42,469 --> 02:49:39,120
part to this james

4431
02:49:47,269 --> 02:49:42,479
and i didn't really address it tonight

4432
02:49:51,110 --> 02:49:47,279
but there has to be

4433
02:49:54,870 --> 02:49:51,120
thousands tens of thousands

4434
02:49:58,630 --> 02:49:54,880
of civilizations that have visited

4435
02:50:03,030 --> 02:49:58,640
earth not one not two not three not

4436
02:50:06,230 --> 02:50:03,040
mantids and reptilians and and palladium

4437
02:50:09,269 --> 02:50:06,240
whatever zeta reticulum

4438
02:50:12,389 --> 02:50:09,279
nordics in this and tall gray short gray

4439
02:50:15,510 --> 02:50:12,399
uh no it

4440
02:50:18,790 --> 02:50:15,520
has got to be a number so

4441
02:50:21,510 --> 02:50:18,800
big that it'll blow your mind and

4442
02:50:22,469 --> 02:50:21,520
so the agendas what are they doing how

4443
02:50:25,349 --> 02:50:22,479
are they staying

4444
02:50:27,590 --> 02:50:25,359
how many times have they been here every

4445
02:50:28,150 --> 02:50:27,600
every situation is going to be a unique

4446
02:50:29,750 --> 02:50:28,160
one

4447
02:50:31,990 --> 02:50:29,760
and that's the way that i look at it you

4448
02:50:33,830 --> 02:50:32,000
can't look at it any other way there's

4449
02:50:36,790 --> 02:50:33,840
too much life out there in the universe

4450
02:50:37,429 --> 02:50:36,800
and richard said one thing james tonight

4451
02:50:40,790 --> 02:50:37,439
that uh

4452
02:50:44,469 --> 02:50:40,800
was very profound and he said

4453
02:50:45,910 --> 02:50:44,479
a lot of these are probably here for the

4454
02:50:50,710 --> 02:50:45,920
first time

4455
02:50:52,469 --> 02:50:50,720
and maybe it'll be their only time

4456
02:50:54,950 --> 02:50:52,479
and the reason why you have to look at

4457
02:50:58,550 --> 02:50:54,960
it that way they've got to move on

4458
02:50:59,750 --> 02:50:58,560
and continue to explore the trillions of

4459
02:51:02,790 --> 02:50:59,760
other planets

4460
02:51:06,469 --> 02:51:02,800
in our milky way not

4461
02:51:09,510 --> 02:51:06,479
in the universe just like right here

4462
02:51:11,110 --> 02:51:09,520
you know and it takes time you know so

4463
02:51:12,550 --> 02:51:11,120
are you going to come back for repeat

4464
02:51:15,670 --> 02:51:12,560
visits yeah sure a lot

4465
02:51:18,309 --> 02:51:15,680
do most probably don't they do a

4466
02:51:20,790 --> 02:51:18,319
drive-by they take a soil sample

4467
02:51:23,349 --> 02:51:20,800
they grab a couple of horses grab a

4468
02:51:26,710 --> 02:51:23,359
couple of humans throw them in that ship

4469
02:51:28,710 --> 02:51:26,720
and then split and and

4470
02:51:30,070 --> 02:51:28,720
and that's that's the that's the way

4471
02:51:32,230 --> 02:51:30,080
that i look at it james

4472
02:51:33,750 --> 02:51:32,240
enjoy the rest of your night and we'll

4473
02:51:36,870 --> 02:51:33,760
see you tomorrow right here with

4474
02:51:38,309 --> 02:51:36,880
linda moulton howe oh i love linda all

4475
02:51:39,990 --> 02:51:38,319
right thank you

4476
02:51:41,750 --> 02:51:40,000
yeah absolutely we'll see you tomorrow

4477
02:51:44,790 --> 02:51:41,760
night um

4478
02:51:46,150 --> 02:51:44,800
i'm not playing around with that i am

4479
02:51:49,750 --> 02:51:46,160
being very serious

4480
02:51:53,030 --> 02:51:49,760
the number has got to be tens

4481
02:51:56,070 --> 02:51:53,040
of thousands over

4482
02:51:59,110 --> 02:51:56,080
millions of years maybe even longer

4483
02:52:01,429 --> 02:51:59,120
and that's there is no other way uh

4484
02:52:04,150 --> 02:52:01,439
to look at it than that that's it that's

4485
02:52:06,950 --> 02:52:04,160
it that's why no two ships are the same

4486
02:52:08,389 --> 02:52:06,960
right similar okay so that's a repeat

4487
02:52:09,590 --> 02:52:08,399
visit that's another it's a repeat

4488
02:52:14,230 --> 02:52:09,600
drive-by

4489
02:52:18,710 --> 02:52:14,240
but uh no it just has to be that way

4490
02:52:19,910 --> 02:52:18,720
it does i'm really never going to change

4491
02:52:22,150 --> 02:52:19,920
let's go back to the phones hi you're

4492
02:52:23,910 --> 02:52:22,160
live on fade to block who's calling

4493
02:52:25,190 --> 02:52:23,920
hi jimmy it's lafayette from quarter

4494
02:52:27,110 --> 02:52:25,200
militia california

4495
02:52:29,190 --> 02:52:27,120
hey lafayette how much coffee have you

4496
02:52:33,110 --> 02:52:29,200
had tonight

4497
02:52:36,469 --> 02:52:33,120
it's choline and lion's mane mushrooms

4498
02:52:37,910 --> 02:52:36,479
um keep my thoughts straight no does

4499
02:52:42,070 --> 02:52:37,920
that orange guard work on the mantis

4500
02:52:43,590 --> 02:52:42,080
because i may need some after this

4501
02:52:45,190 --> 02:52:43,600
you're pretty funny man that's that's

4502
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:45,200
pretty good probably

4503
02:52:51,510 --> 02:52:48,399
uh it probably would

4504
02:52:53,910 --> 02:52:51,520
for certain certain ones

4505
02:52:55,910 --> 02:52:53,920
so i got two two two things for you one

4506
02:52:56,950 --> 02:52:55,920
on the timeline of the mantid visits and

4507
02:52:58,389 --> 02:52:56,960
the other one on the age of

4508
02:53:01,990 --> 02:52:58,399
civilizations

4509
02:53:03,030 --> 02:53:02,000
now they probably came in 52 000 years

4510
02:53:05,190 --> 02:53:03,040
ago and again

4511
02:53:06,710 --> 02:53:05,200
13 000 years ago since they're doing

4512
02:53:07,590 --> 02:53:06,720
breeding they're probably following

4513
02:53:09,110 --> 02:53:07,600
darwinism

4514
02:53:11,110 --> 02:53:09,120
survival of the fittest and there were

4515
02:53:12,630 --> 02:53:11,120
poll ships right after they came

4516
02:53:14,230 --> 02:53:12,640
so we're headed for a pole shift they're

4517
02:53:15,429 --> 02:53:14,240
probably hoping some of their upgrades

4518
02:53:17,590 --> 02:53:15,439
will survive it

4519
02:53:19,030 --> 02:53:17,600
and the second thing on the age of

4520
02:53:20,950 --> 02:53:19,040
civilizations

4521
02:53:22,710 --> 02:53:20,960
as i said before they're skipping

4522
02:53:24,150 --> 02:53:22,720
through time the mountains we see may be

4523
02:53:26,469 --> 02:53:24,160
the same ones that were here 50

4524
02:53:27,670 --> 02:53:26,479
000 years ago and it's only a couple

4525
02:53:28,870 --> 02:53:27,680
weeks to them

4526
02:53:30,550 --> 02:53:28,880
because they're only here for a brief

4527
02:53:32,309 --> 02:53:30,560
period of time and then they're gone

4528
02:53:34,309 --> 02:53:32,319
just like ghosts and let me explain

4529
02:53:35,590 --> 02:53:34,319
a model for how this might work now

4530
02:53:37,750 --> 02:53:35,600
space is curved

4531
02:53:39,590 --> 02:53:37,760
yeah well it might actually be pleated

4532
02:53:42,469 --> 02:53:39,600
imagine your curtains on a window

4533
02:53:44,469 --> 02:53:42,479
where up and down is is space and from

4534
02:53:46,230 --> 02:53:44,479
side to side is time

4535
02:53:48,150 --> 02:53:46,240
so you pull your curtains back and

4536
02:53:49,349 --> 02:53:48,160
they're all bunched up and pleated and

4537
02:53:51,590 --> 02:53:49,359
you run a needle

4538
02:53:52,550 --> 02:53:51,600
through it a needle is like a ghost or a

4539
02:53:55,510 --> 02:53:52,560
ufo

4540
02:53:57,030 --> 02:53:55,520
it only appears occasionally in that

4541
02:53:59,429 --> 02:53:57,040
pleating

4542
02:54:00,550 --> 02:53:59,439
so uh and like and i say a needle and

4543
02:54:02,150 --> 02:54:00,560
you screw it through

4544
02:54:03,510 --> 02:54:02,160
on one pleat it'll be turning one way

4545
02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:03,520
and another key will be turning the

4546
02:54:06,790 --> 02:54:05,200
other way just like a particle versus

4547
02:54:09,110 --> 02:54:06,800
anti-particle they're living outside of

4548
02:54:10,150 --> 02:54:09,120
our time and they're screwing around in

4549
02:54:15,349 --> 02:54:10,160
it

4550
02:54:22,950 --> 02:54:19,349
the the idea

4551
02:54:26,309 --> 02:54:22,960
the theory a hundred years ago before

4552
02:54:30,469 --> 02:54:26,319
general and special relativity okay

4553
02:54:34,070 --> 02:54:30,479
the general thought was

4554
02:54:37,670 --> 02:54:34,080
time is the same for everything

4555
02:54:39,750 --> 02:54:37,680
everybody everywhere it's it it's linear

4556
02:54:40,870 --> 02:54:39,760
it's it's no different no matter where

4557
02:54:43,830 --> 02:54:40,880
you go what you do

4558
02:54:45,670 --> 02:54:43,840
right well uh einstein comes along and

4559
02:54:48,790 --> 02:54:45,680
certainly messes that up

4560
02:54:52,230 --> 02:54:48,800
and now when you bring in uh gravity

4561
02:54:54,150 --> 02:54:52,240
and space-time and the slowing down or

4562
02:54:56,309 --> 02:54:54,160
the speeding up of time as you go

4563
02:54:57,030 --> 02:54:56,319
through space and that space is a fabric

4564
02:55:03,590 --> 02:54:57,040
and

4565
02:55:04,950 --> 02:55:03,600
like your pleats by the way okay so if

4566
02:55:06,710 --> 02:55:04,960
that's the case

4567
02:55:08,790 --> 02:55:06,720
and i do believe that it is i think

4568
02:55:09,830 --> 02:55:08,800
there's enough evidence there to suggest

4569
02:55:14,150 --> 02:55:09,840
that just with

4570
02:55:16,630 --> 02:55:14,160
gps systems and and gravity with our sun

4571
02:55:20,309 --> 02:55:16,640
and earth and the moon um

4572
02:55:22,710 --> 02:55:20,319
how gravity affects uh time

4573
02:55:24,630 --> 02:55:22,720
that's it right exactly right the time

4574
02:55:28,230 --> 02:55:24,640
is different

4575
02:55:31,750 --> 02:55:28,240
it is on the first floor of your house

4576
02:55:34,710 --> 02:55:31,760
let alone heading out into space but

4577
02:55:35,830 --> 02:55:34,720
but putting that aside different

4578
02:55:39,110 --> 02:55:35,840
civilizations

4579
02:55:42,150 --> 02:55:39,120
out there are running in

4580
02:55:47,030 --> 02:55:42,160
their own time

4581
02:55:48,950 --> 02:55:47,040
i'm just going to say a year so

4582
02:55:53,349 --> 02:55:48,960
everybody can understand what i'm saying

4583
02:55:56,830 --> 02:55:53,359
their year could be our minute

4584
02:56:00,950 --> 02:55:56,840
and and to be able to

4585
02:56:03,910 --> 02:56:00,960
see right that frequency that they are

4586
02:56:04,389 --> 02:56:03,920
on we may not have that ability and that

4587
02:56:07,910 --> 02:56:04,399
goes

4588
02:56:09,910 --> 02:56:07,920
side but what about sound what about

4589
02:56:12,309 --> 02:56:09,920
speech what about

4590
02:56:14,790 --> 02:56:12,319
a radio broadcaster or a radio signal

4591
02:56:18,230 --> 02:56:14,800
that is absolutely broadcast

4592
02:56:20,950 --> 02:56:18,240
on a different time scale that is not

4593
02:56:22,630 --> 02:56:20,960
exactly the same as ours and it just

4594
02:56:24,150 --> 02:56:22,640
blows past it we don't see it we're not

4595
02:56:26,070 --> 02:56:24,160
even aware of it

4596
02:56:27,830 --> 02:56:26,080
because it's not in our frequency it's

4597
02:56:31,429 --> 02:56:27,840
not in our parallel world

4598
02:56:33,990 --> 02:56:31,439
it's not it's not even here for us so

4599
02:56:35,590 --> 02:56:34,000
i absolutely agree with that and it has

4600
02:56:37,910 --> 02:56:35,600
to be that way

4601
02:56:38,710 --> 02:56:37,920
it has to well like in the in the travis

4602
02:56:40,389 --> 02:56:38,720
walton case

4603
02:56:42,389 --> 02:56:40,399
he was only gone for a few hours but it

4604
02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:42,399
was like five days here

4605
02:56:46,630 --> 02:56:44,800
yeah well that's that was so funny you

4606
02:56:47,190 --> 02:56:46,640
know how long have i been gone i'm sorry

4607
02:56:49,830 --> 02:56:47,200
i'm

4608
02:56:50,309 --> 02:56:49,840
you know 60 minutes am i late for dinner

4609
02:56:53,349 --> 02:56:50,319
right

4610
02:56:56,469 --> 02:56:53,359
dude you were gone for five days what

4611
02:56:58,630 --> 02:56:56,479
that's why i'm thirsty same thing with

4612
02:57:00,230 --> 02:56:58,640
rip van winkle with the elven story and

4613
02:57:01,190 --> 02:57:00,240
the fairies and stuff they're on a

4614
02:57:03,110 --> 02:57:01,200
different timeline

4615
02:57:04,550 --> 02:57:03,120
they're only skipping in and out of here

4616
02:57:06,389 --> 02:57:04,560
and that's why there's there's a

4617
02:57:08,230 --> 02:57:06,399
also a youtube video on why we're

4618
02:57:10,790 --> 02:57:08,240
probably surrounded by

4619
02:57:12,550 --> 02:57:10,800
older alien civilizations the odds are

4620
02:57:13,910 --> 02:57:12,560
like three to one that they're going and

4621
02:57:14,389 --> 02:57:13,920
he uses all this math and it's really

4622
02:57:17,510 --> 02:57:14,399
good he

4623
02:57:20,230 --> 02:57:17,520
did a paper i can't remember his name um

4624
02:57:22,150 --> 02:57:20,240
so probably most aliens around us are

4625
02:57:24,150 --> 02:57:22,160
ahead of us

4626
02:57:26,710 --> 02:57:24,160
they would have to be logically no they

4627
02:57:29,510 --> 02:57:26,720
would have to be they would have to be

4628
02:57:30,389 --> 02:57:29,520
it doesn't matter how you slice it up if

4629
02:57:34,150 --> 02:57:30,399
you go

4630
02:57:35,510 --> 02:57:34,160
to the closest stars to us whether it's

4631
02:57:37,750 --> 02:57:35,520
you know four and a half light years

4632
02:57:38,469 --> 02:57:37,760
away or 20 light years or 100 light

4633
02:57:41,349 --> 02:57:38,479
years away

4634
02:57:41,750 --> 02:57:41,359
that's a hundred light years what you

4635
02:57:45,830 --> 02:57:41,760
are

4636
02:57:47,910 --> 02:57:45,840
looking at is the old version

4637
02:57:50,790 --> 02:57:47,920
right the light that is getting to us

4638
02:57:54,230 --> 02:57:50,800
that's the past that's not the

4639
02:57:56,870 --> 02:57:54,240
current version of what is there

4640
02:57:57,429 --> 02:57:56,880
right that is exactly that's the past

4641
02:58:00,710 --> 02:57:57,439
and

4642
02:58:04,070 --> 02:58:00,720
uh them looking at us

4643
02:58:05,910 --> 02:58:04,080
it's the same thing so if they are

4644
02:58:07,910 --> 02:58:05,920
10 000 light years away and they're

4645
02:58:10,309 --> 02:58:07,920
looking at earth in a telescope

4646
02:58:11,670 --> 02:58:10,319
they're looking at earth 10 000 years

4647
02:58:15,030 --> 02:58:11,680
ago they don't see

4648
02:58:16,469 --> 02:58:15,040
you and i talking on the radio right no

4649
02:58:19,590 --> 02:58:16,479
they don't see that

4650
02:58:21,269 --> 02:58:19,600
they're looking at the ice age

4651
02:58:23,190 --> 02:58:21,279
right do you do you follow what i'm

4652
02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:23,200
saying and it's the same thing for us

4653
02:58:27,349 --> 02:58:25,120
yeah it's a crazy thing to wrap your

4654
02:58:28,630 --> 02:58:27,359
head around uh when you look at because

4655
02:58:32,309 --> 02:58:28,640
we think that we're looking at

4656
02:58:35,590 --> 02:58:32,319
everything in the same uh time space

4657
02:58:37,510 --> 02:58:35,600
right that the modern version of us so

4658
02:58:40,070 --> 02:58:37,520
they must be if they're looking at us

4659
02:58:40,710 --> 02:58:40,080
they're looking at earth with lights and

4660
02:58:44,309 --> 02:58:40,720
cars

4661
02:58:47,110 --> 02:58:44,319
and and the internet and and iphones

4662
02:58:47,429 --> 02:58:47,120
they're not they're looking at if it's

4663
02:58:50,070 --> 02:58:47,439
10

4664
02:58:51,429 --> 02:58:50,080
20 000 light years away they're looking

4665
02:58:54,469 --> 02:58:51,439
at an earth that

4666
02:58:55,830 --> 02:58:54,479
um is stone age man right

4667
02:58:58,790 --> 02:58:55,840
that's that's what they're looking at

4668
02:59:00,469 --> 02:58:58,800
it's it's it it messes with my head

4669
02:59:01,750 --> 02:59:00,479
lafayette thank you so much man we'll

4670
02:59:03,030 --> 02:59:01,760
see you tomorrow night with linda

4671
02:59:05,590 --> 02:59:03,040
moulton how behave

4672
02:59:07,190 --> 02:59:05,600
thank you so much have a good one jimmy

4673
02:59:07,910 --> 02:59:07,200
you too that's a great phone call right

4674
02:59:10,309 --> 02:59:07,920
there

4675
02:59:11,429 --> 02:59:10,319
lafayette and with that i got to get out

4676
02:59:13,510 --> 02:59:11,439
of here what a great conversation

4677
02:59:14,630 --> 02:59:13,520
tonight i do want to thank richard bleep

4678
02:59:17,510 --> 02:59:14,640
and dolan

4679
02:59:18,550 --> 02:59:17,520
what a great show the book is easy and

4680
02:59:20,750 --> 02:59:18,560
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4681
02:59:22,309 --> 02:59:20,760
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4682
02:59:23,990 --> 02:59:22,319
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4683
02:59:25,750 --> 02:59:24,000
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4684
02:59:28,710 --> 02:59:25,760
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4685
02:59:30,230 --> 02:59:28,720
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4686
02:59:32,070 --> 02:59:30,240
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4687
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4688
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4689
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4690
02:59:39,670 --> 02:59:37,600
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4691
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4692
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4693
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4694
02:59:48,070 --> 02:59:46,479
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4695
02:59:50,230 --> 02:59:48,080
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4696
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4697
02:59:54,870 --> 02:59:52,960
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4698
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4699
02:59:58,230 --> 02:59:56,479
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4700
02:59:59,670 --> 02:59:58,240
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4701
03:00:00,389 --> 02:59:59,680
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4702
03:00:01,990 --> 03:00:00,399
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4703
03:00:03,429 --> 03:00:02,000
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4704
03:00:04,550 --> 03:00:03,439
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4705
03:00:08,550 --> 03:00:04,560
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4706
03:00:11,110 --> 03:00:08,560
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4707
03:00:12,870 --> 03:00:11,120
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4708
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4709
03:00:25,630 --> 03:00:13,600
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